Joe Biden will not comply with subpoena to testify under oath; says his son knows it was a mistake

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  1. Lee_Wang_Tran

    Lee_Wang_Tran Newly Registered

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    https://www.npr.org/2019/12/09/7853...-testimony-as-a-trump-ploy-to-divert-attentio

    Notice how the biased Media (and this is NPR) titles it that "Biden rejects calls..." when he stated explicitly he would disobey a lawful subpoena to testify under oath. It's not reject calls, it's refusal to obey subpoena.

    He then changes the narrative to how no one warned him about how his son could appear to have a conflict of interest, when George Kent actually warned staff under Biden, that his son can cause a conflict of interest by being on the board of Burisma.

    Biden, eventually relents, and acknowledges that his son should not have served on Burisma and did indeed give an appearance of corruption.

    My o my, how it's all unravelling for corrupted Joe, he's now admitting that there is a "appearance" of corruption. It took a lot of evidence to finally at least to get him to admit that much. Let's see if Uncle Joe testifies once the senate subpoena's him. Let's see what Biden says under oath or maybe he'll get arrested for failing to obey a subpoena.

    So Uncle Joe, if your son being on Burisma gave a appearance of corruption, why not testify to get rid of that appearance, afraid you'll lie under oath?

    Watch Biden pull the executive privilege card that Democrats keep complaining about Trump using.

    Reporter: The question is will you comply with a subpoena?

    Biden: NO....there is no evidence..

    Biden: It does look bad, but there is nothing wrong and I'm not testifying.
     
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  2. StillBlue

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    Do you call Jake who held up a 7-11 to testify at a bank robbery across town because Mike the bank robber wants to justify his bank robbery as normal behavior? Why would you?
    If one of the Bidens broke US law or are suspected of breaking US law then by all means investigate them but they have zero to do with Trump and company.

    Does it not say anything at all to you that after all this time there have been no US investigations of the Bidens? After all, if any laws were broken it would be US law, taxes or influence peddling perhaps. There were no Ukrainian laws broken by them since as a previous prosecutor said, a corporation can pay their board anything they want.
     
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    Biden's guilt or innocent is absolutely relevant.

    Trump's defense is that Biden was corrupted, so he sought to investigate him, not because he wanted to get an advantage in the 2020 election.

    If Biden is actually corrupt, it adds to the fact that Trump was investigating Biden because he's corrupted and not because he's a political opponent.

    Biden's corruption matters because it speaks to Trump's intent.


    Yes Burisma can pay their board members whatever they want, but in the case of Hunter and Joe, Joe was managing US and Ukraine relations, and while Joe had this kind of power, Burisma decides to make his son a member of the board and pay him huge sums of money.

    You don't think Burisma did this so that they can get an audience with Joe or get Hunter to whisper things in Joe's ear?

    If Burisma ever bought any favors from Biden, then that is treason.
     
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    Again and again and again and again, if the Biden's, either one of them, committed a crime it was US law, US LAW, not Ukrainian. US law enforcement are the ones that should be investigating not Ukrainian. It is not. Why? Have you asked yourself that? Why is US law enforcement not investigating? Could it be because Trump doesn't have enough leverage over them to get them to publicly embarrass themselves? Trump didn't seek a conviction nor indictment he was seeking a publicly announced investigation which is all it takes to make his base turn rabid and give him the chance to start "lock him up" chants.
    Trump will be impeached. The only question is will he get a fair trial in the Senate. I fear that he won't and will use his not being ousted to do even more outrageous things. That's the risk Republican senators have to ask themselves, can they live with the consequences of not ousting him?
     
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    The title the OP chose to put on this thread is similar to a trump tactic. Reading the title one would think that Biden has been subpoenaed and he refuses to comply. That is not true. We don't know what he would do if he actually got subpoenaed.
     
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    True. I was responding more to the why he won't/shouldn't be subpoenaed in the first place. Trying to put a nick in that armor so to speak.

    Edited because I used a word instead of nick that is normally used in the term but can be used as a disparaging term for Chinese and the language filter rejected it.
     
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    Seriously? You can't use the word ***** because it might be offensive??

    Yes, it seems you cannot.. so the phrase "chinck in the armor" is now an ethnic slur??
     
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    So, if we are to take the Judiciary and the House speaker as the current standard, then mr Biden is obviously "obstructing congress" and "abusing his power" as a presidential candidate and must be impeached. got it.
     
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    Weird huh? Apparently no context of the word applied.
     
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    But, it seems you can still use the word whitewash.... or blackballing... perhaps the trifecta here is indian giver??
     
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    No, because there haven't actually been subpoenas issued. As noted above by Capt Nice it's a made up premise.
     
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    LOL.. when has that ever mattered? The man has already publicly asserted that he wouldn't follow the law. Wouldn't respect the will of congress or the Senate in this case. He's a lawless rogue dictating to the public. It's instructive actually to see exactly how he believes his world works..
     
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    If those consequences are that they get their chances to do the same things as Trump has with impunity of course they will.

    I expect ALL of our elections in 2020 to be completely overtaken by electronic cheating. We are seeing our Democracy being stolen before our eyes and there is only one way to stop it as no amount of cheating can cancel an overwhelming defeat, DON'T VOTE REPUBLICAN
     
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    We'll see if he actually gets subpoenaed. Obviously the House won't and honestly, I doubt the Senate will try. Justice Roberts still has the final say on this unless the Senate wants to publicly declare their incompetence.
     
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    Gee, who ever heard of someone defying a subpoena? It has become a regular practice under the "I can do anything I want" so called, POS president named Donald J trump....Putin's US asset.
     
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    Why can’t Ukraine investigate the facts even if it’s a US law. Do you think Ukraine would be the ones to charge Biden?

    Ukraine can definitely look into the facts, and then provide the facts to us. Trump asked Ukraine to work with the DOJ and Rudy. This was a joint effort.

    Yeah a public announcement would rally up the base, and having support is how you get things looked into. You think the president can pass laws or statues to go after Biden, Clinton and Obama without public support?

    If you wanted to come up with a plan to lock up Biden for corruption. YOU NEED THE PUBLIC ON YOUR SIDE, or Biden won’t do life in prison
     
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    Are you saying Biden is a liar? We can’t take Biden at his word when he is asked CLEARLY if he was served a subpoena by congress if he would comply. He said an unambiguous NO both times.

    So I guess Biden is a typical democrat, can’t take him at his word. Liar Biden when he says NO could mean YES
     
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    You mean he is ignoring a subpoena EXACTLY as virtually everyone in the present White House administration has????
     
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    When was he served with a subpoena?
     
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    Democrats should stay consistent, if you are going to claim Trump has things to hide because he won't let executive members testify, then Biden has things to hide too.
     
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    He was asked if he would obey a subpoena, and he said no. Unless Joe is a liar, he won't obey subpoenas.
     
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    Any one worshiping the blonde pervert has no business calling any one (key word anyone) a liar.
     
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    Why do Anti-Trumpers always ignore the facts, rather than address the issue at hand about Biden being a liar, they like to go... But but but but TRUMP!

    It's like when a police officer stops someone for speeding, and they go BUT BUT BUT... Trump speeding!

    So your defense of Biden lying is to call Trump a liar... LOL
     
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    Trump says people don't have to honor Congresses subpoena's

    when Trump's staff honors theirs let us know
     
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    it's like Trump doing wheelies around the cop flipping him off and the cop pulls over an old lady for driving too slow
     

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