More locations going all electric banning natural gas in new homes.

More and more cities and towns across the USA are requiring all new construction to only install electric appliances and heating equipment no natural gas.The reasons are primarily twofold, first is the considerations of climate change and second eliminating the risks of gas explosions which have rocked many neighborhoods across the country.The long term objective is the elimination of natural gas use in homes.Electric stoves are also seeing an increased emphasis on burners which only transfer heat to the pots and pans placed on the burner and do not burn skin if touched.

 

Does anyone have experience with the induction cooking burners on the non hand burning cook tops?The stoves seem to be quite a bit more expensive.

 

What percentage of electricity is produced using coal and natural gas.

 

So in many locations we are now using coal instead of natural gas makes perfect sense.

 

They are absolutely amazing, if you can afford them...
Still doesn’t beat open flame for cooking in my opinion though.

 

No they are not using coal it is worse for the environment.They are using natural gas to generate electricity for feeding to all electric homes.

 

I wonder if these city-town fathers have any idea what they are talking about. They think they will help the climate by replacing natural gas appliances with electric appliances fed by natural gas burning electric power plants? Reminds me of Pelosi's remark a few years back that we should get off fossil fuels and all move to natural gas . And what will they do to eliminate the more numerous electrical house fires?

 

So you applaud inefficiency? For heating purposes, natural gas is much superior to electricity. Also, the electricity I buy is from Natural gas. Seems short sighted to me.

 

Depends where you live. In my province it's less than one percent and only way up north in isolated communities.
All the rest is hydro generated.

 

Ya, "snicker" every time I read stuff like this.. But it does go to show how out of touch Americans are about where electricity comes from and that in itself is most alarming ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

Which is the most inefficient way to use natural gas. In fact, I went from an electric hotwater heater with a tank to a gas tankless one for that reason.

Gas turbine NG power plant uses 11,138 BTU per KWH.
Electricity: 1KWH heats 6.8 gallons of water by 60 F.
Gas: 11 btu heats 1 gallon by 1 f. Convert that to the same as electricity, get 4488 to heat 6.8 gallons by 60 f. Less than half of the NG is used to heat water directly, rather than going through a power plant and converting to electricity. I live in a NG electricity area. Takes 2 1/2 times as much natural gas to heat water via an electric water heater than a natural gas one.

http://waterheatertimer.org/How-much-electricity-needed-to-heat-water.html
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_08_02.html

 

Are our leftists even aware that much of southern California is now periodically without electrical services and that tens of thousands of their precious electric cars are without juice?

 

Which is a great loss of efficiency in terms of heating. Roughly speaking it takes 2 1/2 times as much natural gas to power an electric heater than it does to power a natural gas furnace.

 

In the U.S. as a whole, about 64% of electricity is produced by burning fossil fuels (Natural Gas-35.2%, Coal-27.5% and others .9%). Only 7% is hydropower.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

 

I doubt most people even know HOW their state and cities electric is generated. And the bigger the demand/city/state the more diverse the production is needed to supply them..

Granted we are getting more diverse in energy production, but the more you try to eliminate the "BiG TWO" the greater the unrealistic demand becomes on alternatives that simply can not compete with massive output that Coal and NG provide..

 

We're now exporting to the north eastern states. Vermont, New Hampshire, New York, Massachusetts now buy our surplus. The last four dams that we've built were specifically for the export market.

 

In this area, if an all electric home was to go dark for any extended amount of time in the winter, you'd better hope for VERY efficient insulation, a generator and a fireplace! Or your gonna have a real serious mess on your hands! My nephew's newer home is all electric and he hates it! For starters the price for electric is greater then NG, and most of all outages.. Although uncommon there are always those times transformers fail, and when temps are subzero people move slower and repairs take a long time..

 

They don't know where the electricity comes from we have only one electrical grid


Coal, natural gas, wind , solar. hydro, nuke info from 2012

 

The U.S. has run out of rivers suitable for large scale hydropower. In addition, hydropower isn't benign to the environment. It changes thriving river ecosystems into deep lakes.

 

We didn't run out of rivers, the US government got out of the business because of tree huggers

 

Location, location, location. It does matter. Our home has been all electric for nearly forty years now but then again we live in the deep south and so our winters tend to be relatively mild. It's losing electricity during July and August which tries or souls. It's happened a few times.

 

Have you ever read about the impact dams are having on the earths rotation? I'll just offer one instance in China as I really don't care, but its interesting... There are even some scientific evidence that dams and concentration of large cities are also to be noted for the last 20 years of axis shift also. Like I say, nothing I will live to see out

The Three Gorges dam is affecting the Earth’s rotation .

 

I tried to find statistics on natural gas explosions and this was the best I could find...perhaps someone's googlefu is better? LINK: How Dangerous is Natural Gas? It's an article from 2017. However when I look up electrical fires I found this: LINK: 5 common causes of electrical fires an article from July 2019 that states that approximately 24,000 electrical fires per year.

Seems to me that electrical is more dangerous than gas.

 

I'd agree with that, it makes no sense to generate electricity from natural gas, then transport the electricity to a house, incurring energy loss in the process, to then use it for heating. Much better to heat with gas right away.

However, IF electricity is going to be used for heating, it will come through geothermal. There are companies that are now making geothermal much more accessible, by streamlining the loop drilling process. Geothermal is the future.

 

Very true! Here I seldom see 95 degree's! I have property just outside West Blocton, Alabama and ya, August is a death sentence for me!!! Take a shower never EVER get dried off!!