The Defense Rests: GOP Leaders Reportedly Considering Not Calling a Single Witness

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It all needs to be investigated which is one reason why Trump asking for the mutual cooperation as required by treaty was not an impeachable offense. Did Hunter Biden register as a foreign agent? The Dems love that one.
     
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    So...that would be a good topic for a reporter to ask about.
     
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    I do not believe that Trump supporters in the Senate care any more about them evidence than the House Trump fans do. They will just launch personal attacks on witnesses who tell the truth.

    Again why bother going through all that noise when we all know that the Trump fans will not ever vote to remove.
     
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    Why in the world would somebody working for a private company need to register under FARA??
     
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    I suppose... unless somebody deemed that off limits to Pete Williams at NBC...
     
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    They could from the floor adopt a motion to dismiss the articles on the basis they do not contain impeachable offense and be done with it. Slap down the Dems saying enough is enough. But that does work in the Dems favor. It gets rid of it for them. They can say "Look how the Republicans refused to put Trump on trail and do their duty" and other such hyperbolic nonsense, their candidates get stay out and campaign.

    Then they could hold the full trial and call all the witnesses and subpoena Schiff to disclose the name of the alleged whistleblower and call Schiff to testify as he is in fact the prosecutor in this impeachment and wrote the report on the allegations. And as to motive the Bidens. Let them plead the 5th.
     
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    If he was representing them to business and government in the United States. If he wasn't even doing that then what exactly was he getting paid for. They say that hired him for his name, that would put him in a position of representing them, working for them as to their American interest.
     
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    To see if they need to strengthen financial disclosure and banking laws.
     
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    Nah, the right people "His Base" know this was all bullshit and are tired of it.. The only ones that need the juice from the Dog&pony show is the insecure left! They need as much thumb sucking time as they can get to help them get thru those lonely day and lonely nights :(



    And when its done and shelved
     
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    So you are characterizing the Senate trial before there's been any agreement on how it's conducted, and would prefer that McConnell gets his wish, with a short trial and no witnesses?
     
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  11. Lil Mike

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    That's possible. It's a crappy network.
     
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    I counted 2 IF's there, but that's fine... I'm not a Hunter Biden defender, but you need to come at him with more than Rudy Giuliani's wet dream in my book...
     
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    I was actually referring to Barr setting some limits on the interview... That's more possible...
     
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    So only Trump's records can do that?
     
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    He is not going to bare his neck to a pack of wolves. In the IG report there was 17 mishandling's. Each one was a negative for Trump. Of course the Obama appointee would say there was no FBI bias. We are going to say what the prosecutor says.
     
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    Hmm....possible, but my bet would be more on NBC.
     
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    Don't care about Mcconnell's wishes. What I care about is what will work and there is no need to let Trump fans stage a phony baloney clown show.
    Who needs to watch a Senate version of that shirt sleeve thug ( Jordan) who could care less about the truth but only to attack witnesses.
     
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    So you agree with McConnell then.

    OK
     
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    My argument didn't move at all.

    Noone is suggesting SCOTUS review the impeachment, only the Constitutionality of the charges.

    That's an interesting take by Rehnquist, who himself presided over an impeachment....as per the Constitution. Why would the head of SCOTUS preside over something they have no input in?

    Clearly the Constitution involves SCOTUS, as it indicates the chief justice will be at it, presiding.

    I'd refer you to the definition of "preside".
     
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    Yeah. Good to see you gloat about the abuse of law for a political weapon.

    Your mother must be so proud.
     
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    All of what you mention has its merits. Trump says he wants a trial. It is my opinion though that republicans of the Wise Upper chamber will prevail and insist on a speedy trial. There were no witnesses called during the Clinton trial. It is considered risky. As time goes by, there is a greater likelihood of defectors, like Romney, Collins, Murkowski and possibly Tillis. If there is an early motion to dismiss, I would expect it to come from Graham, Barrasso or Mike Lee.
     
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    The VP can not break a tie on matters related to impeachment.
     
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    Revealing! It seems as if there was never an investigation of Biden/Burisma, by the DoJ. If true, that means either Trump thought there was, or was simply wrong, in which case there was never a quid pro quo, bribery, threat, or whatever you want to call it towards Ukraine to cooperate with the attorney general!

    So the whole impeachment nonsense was fake from the start! Thanks for finding that for me, that clears a lot of things up.
     
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    I said nothing about that report vindicating anyone.

    I said it completely destroyed Trump's conspiracy theories. And yes, I watched today so I know that statement is still accurate.
     

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