Do you have irreconcilable political differences with your family members?

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  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    No doubt, with or without guns.
    I'm guessing you are referring to those who have prior knowledge of a persons mental state but do nothing about it?
     
  2. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Sadly in many cases, a persons state of mind is unknown.
     
  3. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    True but in the case of some of the recent mass shooters their mental state was well known but nothing was done to help them or stop them. Now after the damage is done the blame seems to focus on the gun rather than on the shooter or the system that failed them.
     
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    Easier - and less costly - to remove the guns, than to identify and treat the mentally-ill, and psychopaths among 350 million people? Your choice….
     
  5. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Suicide takes many more lives. Also facilitated by guns.
     
  6. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    Really? Care to lay out your plan to "remove the guns"? Removing the guns seems to be at the forefront of the Democratic agenda yet the entire Party, representing roughly half the American voters, has failed to come up with a comprehensive plan to do just that. So far the best they have done was Beto's "hell yes we'll take your AR". The Democrats can't even figure how to pay for Medicare For All, you really think they will be able to take guns from 40% of US households?

    So if it is my choice then I will keep my guns. Now let's figure how to treat the mentally ill.
     
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  7. Richard The Last

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    Very true. We seem to have a mental health crisis in the US and it seems little is being done to address the issue other than discussing taking guns away from all law abiding citizens.

    Again stop blaming the gun and address the mental health system that is failing its citizens.
     
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  8. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    I am proud to be an Aspie. Depression is real suffering.
     
  9. Richard The Last

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    Do you feel you have all the resources you need to help with anything your condition would require?
     
  10. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Thank G-d and my parents, I do.
     
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    It's not the system failing. It's 'society'. It's people. We're failing as families. This fracturing and dysfunction is the cause of 99% of the mental health problems we see.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    They also want to tax me even more even though I am nowhere near remotely close to "rich" but I have much more than them and they believe themselves entitled to it. Evident to their ability to always conveniently need money from me right around my pay dates. They are pretty much the epitome of folks who all have made terrible decisions throughout life but don't believe they should have to suffer the consequences of their own individual poor choices.

    They are well beyond the point of annoying, they are lazy, they have made very poor decisions in life, and they believe I am "supposed" to help them out all the time because I am nothing like them therefore I am in a much better lot in life.

    Nonetheless they are still my family and I love them anyway and am cordial with them whenever I visit.
     
  13. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    My mom despises Trump, and she likes to make all sorts of wacky Rachel Madcow-fueled predictions of the doom, gloom and ruination that Trump is leading us to. She's been doing it from the very beginning of the dawn of The Age of MAGA, and I keep track of her predictions on the NOTES app on my phone.

    Trump is going to:

    -Crash the economy
    -Outlaw abortions
    -Start WWIII with North Korea
    -Start American Civil War 2.0
    -Declare himself dictator
    -Throw his critics in prison
    -Deport every illegal alien

    And the list goes on and on and on...

    I see her about two times a year, and I love pulling out my phone and ticking off all her predictions that came true with her, all none of them.

    My mom gets really annoyed by my needling, and she calls me a "wiseacre", but it's all in good fun, and there's no real animosity, and certainly no hatred, because we're all rational human beings.

    I'm fortunate in that I don't have any truly TDS-warped lunatics in my family that have been driven insane and apart by their hatred and intolerance.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Oh, and I help my Trump-hating mom out with her finances and accounting stuff, and one of the things I love to do is show my mom how much money Trump has made her with the booming MAGA economy. Big money returns on her investments that are feathering her cushy retirement nest.

    "Look how much money Trump has given you, mom. That'll buy a lot of early bird specials trips down to Florida."

    It enrages her, because the only thing the Trump haters hate more than all the imaginary bad things Trump does, are the actual real and genuine good things he's done. Oh, they HAAAATE that, and I'm always sure to let my mom know down to the penny how much wealth she's made since the Bad Orange Man took control.

    I'm such a wiseacre.
     
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    Congratulations, I guess.
    So is that what you're proud of?
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    My daughters are somewhat liberal, at least they think they are. I know that they are conservative in some ways and predict that it will pass. I don't care. Everyone has the right to an opinion.

    So long as it's the same as mine.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I learned long ago to avoid any political/religious discussion with family.
     
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    Which is more humane to the mentally ill? Take away the guns, they can't harm as much, but they are still being harmed. Also, it's not easier and less costly to remove the guns. There are over 400 million guns in the U.S. in civilian hands. A good number of those don't have any kind of paper trail or registration. Almost none of my guns have a paper trail. They were bought by my father pre-1968, or from private sellers.
     
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    Interestingly enough, we had family Christmas with my wifes extended family this last Saturday. Her family is fanatically pro Trump. They dwarf me in defending him. So much so that when I said last year that I didn't actually vote for him in 2016 that my father in law accused me of supporting Hillary Clinton whether I wanted to admit it or not.
     
  20. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    I am not proud to be depressed.

    I am proud to be an Aspie.
     
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    Same, and mine isn't even American :D

    She's a lightweight though. Just making the right noises, like an atheist at catholic school.
     
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    Because...?
     
  23. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    I am proud to be an Aspie because it makes me different and unique.
     
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    How does one know he has Aspergers? I mean if you've never not had it?
     
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    I have diagnoses -- first in 1992 and reaffirmed multiple times.
     

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