The problem of Capitalism

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Do you agree that the main problem of Capitalism is of moral nature?

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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  1. Idahojunebug77

    Idahojunebug77 Well-Known Member

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    What is the exempt amount of advantageous land and how is it determined? I'm a bit confused on your meaning, could you clarify this point?
     
  2. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The laissez-faire marketplace operates without checks or controls
    Nope i am not a commie, when did i claim to be? Or did you just make it up?
     
  3. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Well it does have laws against force and fraud. So I wouldn't say it no checks or controls.
    So not a commie. Okay. So...what...some kind of authoritarian or something?
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok. Minimal checks and balances
    you just cannot help yourself. Lol. Maybe next you will call me a pedo?
     
  5. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I keep telling those who refuse to understand what the word "capitalism" means to look it up in the dictionary!

    If you don't want capitalism, perhaps we should go back to barter?

    What is wrong with capitalism is the manner in which it is employed to create exaggerated riches. And that is purely a question of upper-income taxation!

    Get it? The PROBLEM IS UPPER-INCOME TAXATION. Which, in the US was brought about by Reckless Ronnie (for the most part). See the history of taxation here:

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    Get it? If not, go for it ... !

    And the above is an exaggeration of fact. Upper-income taxation can be put back up to the Top Marginal Rates, and the money will still come pouring into the Rich Buckets. What must be treated is the near-zero estate-tax exemptions!
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    The exemption as now shown is 80% since 2012. And why/who was elected to replace Obama and passed the exemption? To further the Donald Dork reelection nest-of-eggs!

    Why, ever, should the rich be allowed to transfer ill-got gains (due to far too low historic taxation) of the past to enhance the megabuck-nests of their children, and then their children, and then their children?

    Let's face the factual-evidence. WE, THE SHEEPLE, foolishly further the interests of the rich and super-rich by reelecting Replicants to office in DC ...
     
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  6. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Yes. And (far) worse still, the poor would not have the opportunity to work towards land ownership as they do now.
     
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    If You Hate Poverty, You Should Love Capitalism
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    Did you know that since 1970, the percentage of humanity living in extreme poverty has fallen 80 percent? How did that happen? Arthur Brooks, president of the American Enterprise Institute, explains.
     
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  8. stan1990

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    Good comment
    Thanks
     
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    stan1990 Active Member

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    maybe you had a forged certificate
     
  10. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You too go on IGNORE.
     
  11. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Lol. Yeah, ignore those with whom you disagree. That's what debate is all about.
     
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    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    Just as without slavery, slaves would not have the opportunity to work towards owning slaves of their own....?
     
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    As you know, it has not.
    You know that I have a right to my rights whether or not you claim to own them. You just want to be legally entitled to own other people's rights to liberty. Simple.
    Oooooh, you're such a tough guy. You scare me.
    You know I have proved it is not only comparable, not only similar, but equivalent.
     
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    Are you aware of any poster who is in favor of slavery? I'm not quite sure why you keep brining it up as if it is a topic anyone is debating.
     
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    I've suggested half the median land value used per capita as a reasonable first approximation. That's an amount that should be enough to ensure adequate access to opportunity, but not so much that it would crowd out too much public spending on desirable services and infrastructure. It could be more or less than that, depending on how well that amount works.
    The LSR liability on each parcel would be reduced by a uniform amount for each citizen resident there.
     
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    Yes. Lots of posters want to enslave others by owning their rights to liberty.
    It's called, "logic," something with which you all too obviously have no acquaintance. Specifically, reductio ad absurdum: if your argument would justify slavery, as the arguments of those trying to justify property in land typically do, then it is already known to be fallacious with no further argument needed, even if you are not advocating slavery, because people realize that justifying slavery is absurd.
     
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    I don't agree with your plan to own my rights to liberty.
     
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    Yep: the proceeds going to the government and community who make the land valuable rather than to a thieving parasite in return for nothing is quite an innovation.
     
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    Hehe. If I owned your rights to liberty, I would not be making just compensation to you for violating them, now would I? It is therefore YOUR plan, not mine, that involves owning others' rights to liberty, and I will thank you to remember it.
     
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    No land OWNERS. You again choose to put on your disgraceful and despicable feigned ignorance act.
     
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    No, not even remotely close. Slaves were forced into complaince.

    American citizens are completely free to buy land whenever and wherever they like. Or not buy land at all, if they don't care for that level of autonomy.
     
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    Owners, controllers. Makes no difference in practice.

    You're proposing a medieval system.
     
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    YOU are the 'thieving parasite' - in a nation which allows ANYONE to own land. Whether you exercise that right or not is completely beside the point. When nothing prevents you from ownership, nothing separates you from 'thieving parasites'. That you can't see this fundamental flaw in your bizarrely religious take on this stuff, is a mystery.
     
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    Who is 'the community'?
     
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    Who is 'the community'?

    And what are 'proceeds'? Payment for CONTROL OF LAND? I repeat ... what's the freaking difference?
     
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