Trumpers- you trust the senate?

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you trust em not to backstab Trump?

    I don't. There's an awful lot of em who were (and most assuredly still are) never-Trumpers and just go along to get re-elected because their voters are Trumpers. I'm not confident this will be enough if they can oust him with an indictment vote, if they think they have the numbers. Many of them are still the corrupt establishment.

    Others, certainly, have skeletons the Dems are holding over their heads for just such an occassion as this. The only question is: how many of them?

    But hey, I've been wrong, and hope I am now. What do you think?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don’t think the Senate will convict.
    Might be close though...


    But wouldn’t it be glorious, the first president removed by congress in the history of the United States.
    Followed up with the first president of the United States charged and arrested for financial crimes in numerous states.


    It would rip the Republican party apart at the seams.


    Will never happen though.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Already reports of democrats that will not vote for impeachment.
     
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    Well I trust them far more then leftist!
     
  5. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh is this like democrats not taking the house, or Hillary going to jail, or trump releasing his tax returns, or no charges in the Muller investigation, or no impeachment investigation, or no impeachment charges?
    I cannot keep up with all the things not happening...
     
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    Or Hillary by a landslide, or Trump won't last 90 days, or Trump won't last a year?
     
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    no one should trust any politician, it's not part of their protocol, never has been...

    they are all 'snake oil salesman', it is the only prerequisite for the job...

    there's always an agenda, and we shall find out what that is soon enough...

    the 'outsider' is 'inside' for a reason, and it has nada to do with the election process...
     
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    No, nowhere close. They don't want to deal with a real "resistance" with teeth in their jurisdictions. No one, not even centrist Democrats, believe this is a legitimate process, only the shills, and they are paid to push it.
     
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    This impeachment is totally partisan. It is also bogus. The American voters see this. There are many dems who will lose their seats over this.

    There are no doubt many republicans in congress who would vote for impeachment and conviction. The only thing keeping them from it is the fact it is political suicide to do so.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup, just like those.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In a secret closed door meetings they will tell some people to vote the other way so it appears more non-partisan and realistic
     
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    Nope, more like the only bipartisan part of this impeachment charade was the vote against the investigation.
     
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    Not very likely that 20 Republicans will turn on Trump.
    Yes,Collins of Maine and Murkowski of Alaska undoubtedly will.
    I remember Hugh Hewitt commenting that Maine Loves Susan Collins.
    About the only way Collins won't turn on Trump is if Trump holds a
    Rally in Maine with a huge audience and all the Fresh Lobster one can
    down.Even then,Collins might surprise.She seems to get a kick out of
    acting as Maine's Wonder Woman.However Maine isn't big enough to
    hold a Trump Rally.The state would tip over.Be part of Canada in no time.
     
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    I think Trump fans would think it's okay if their man grilled live babies on his basement barbecue so long as it didn't stink up the neighborhood.
     
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    The democrats have a tiger by the tail. But most of them can read the polls and they see the danger of voting for impeachment. Some will vote against, most will vote for -- they are not very smart. The republicans can also read the polls and all will vote against impeachment. Well there might be one or two who vote for impeachment, a couple who are not very smart, like Romney. McCain would have definitely voted to impeach.
     
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    Trying to guess whether the senate is going to do the right thing is about as reliable as guessing which direction the wind will be blowing. Even a hater like Romney has to know that we need evidence to impeach a president, not conjecture, and speculation.
     
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    I don't think they'll convict. 99% sure of it.
     
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    Impeaching a president based upon speculating what his inner thoughts, motives or intentions could have been, will go down as the lowest point in the Democratic Party since the days of Jim Crow.

    Then again, the Obama admin's FISA abuses may eclipse that. Either way, the past four years mark an awful foot note for the dems
     
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    I don't know. But if the uncertainty is not strong enough to be a real concern it is strong enough for some anxiety because what you say has a ring of truth.
     
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    Trust them? No. I stopped trusting any politician well before Obama got made president. Trump surprises me BECAUSE he seems to do his best to actually keep most of his campaign promises. Weird.

    The senate is filled with career politicians who generally speaking will do anything to get elected and remain in power. But do I trust them to do what is in their best interests to continue getting re-elected? Yes; and since most people Right of Center see right through this politically partisan sham to impeach Trump it is in their best interests -- among the GOPer senators -- to BE trustworthy in this one instance.
     
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    You must have missed where an independent voted for it... thus, bipartisan
     
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    As long as Trump doesn't make me pay $500 a month for healthcare with a $8,000 dollar deductible tomorrow, I am good with anything he does.

    We all know the Unemployment rate is 3.6% and no New wars.
     
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    Plus, the Senate repubs can grandstand on how partisan and weak the House impeachment articles are. All the impeachment articles can be swept aside simply by pointing out that there is ZERO fact evidence to support them. Speculation and presumption will never replace evidence, especially with an impeachment of a president.
     
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    To put a twist on that old Al Gore analogy, "everything that should be up, is up, and everything that should be down, is down."
     
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    What our leftists need to be terrified of is the Senate GOPers sliding into a related investigation of Biden and company in the process of getting at the 'facts' as they pertain to Trump.
     

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