What Happened to Quid Pro Quo and Bribery and Extortion?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by ArchStanton, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Case in point:

    All quotes from Speaker Pelosi:

    April 2019, "So this is a moment in our history… it’s not about politics, it’s about patriotism. It’s an existential threat, this administration, to our democracy, in terms of our Constitution.”

    June 2019 - “The President’s new threat of a mass deportation dragnet is an act of utter malice and bigotry, designed solely to inject fear in our communities.”

    November 2019 - “The weak response to these hearings has been, ‘Let the election decide.’ That dangerous position only adds to the urgency of our action, because POTUS is jeopardizing the integrity of the 2020 elections.”

    And those are just Pelosi's fear mongering comments since April 2019.
     
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  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean what Yovanovitch testified that normalizing relations with Russia was important?
     
  3. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can we just normalize relations between the legislative and executive branches first? ;)
     
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  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. We want to increase everyone's well-founded fear of Trump and his plans to end our way of life and American freedom.
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how many of our deep-cover agents in Russia died in this "normalization"
     
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    I'm totally shaking in my boots. On the other hand, the Democrats openly push a socialist state inevitably ending in communism.

    I find it ironic when a poster by the name of Aleksander Ulyanov speaks of ending the American way of life when in fact Aleksander Ulyanov was the older brother of Vladimir Lenin, the father of Soviet Communism.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Are you really Arch Stanton? I thought you were a skeleton but you look just like Clint Eastwood
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Guys, the 50's called, they want their bogeyman back.

    Of course Trump doesn't frighten YOU. You WANT to live in a fascist dictatorship. Most Americans like living in a free country.
     
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    Instead of worthless dogma, hyperbole, and rhetoric, how about a couple examples of how Trump has ended your poor way of life? How about an example of how Trump has taken away your freedom? Or is this more fear mongering about what Trump MIGHT do?
     
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    Coming from Lenin's brother, that's rich.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The evidence by the IG report shows 17 violations from the FBI by protocol. All 17 disfavored President Trump. No accident. One would be too many. The Obama appointed Investigator says there is no bias. The unverified Steele Dossier itself, used to obtain a FISA Warrant and approved three times is bias in itself. The Prosecutor will soon expose this Coup for what it is. People are going to jail! Sandy will have to find a new topic for a change.
     
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    This mindless comment by Goldman should prove to you how disingenuous and corrupt this guy is. He know's what he is saying is abject nonsense in the context of the threats to our electoral process - yet - ye says it anyway.

    First off - it is the job of the President to out criminality among our political elite.
    Second - how does the public knowing the crimes of a potential candidate ... present a danger to what you claim are "free and fair elections" and to National Security ?

    This is preposterous nonsense.

    Last - without a fair and free media - there is no such thing as a fair and free electoral process. Our media is neither free nor fair. It is owned by the Establishment big money interests through which candidates are "Selected" not "Elected".
     
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    I know. The man cites opinion and conjecture and thinks everyone is so stupid, that they think that is all it takes to convict someone. As if people are not putting themselves in Trump's shoes, and crying foul.

    No one, not even Goldman, would agree to be punished for crime you did not commit, just because some people presumed you were thinking about committing the crime.

    Guilty as accused, even if you can prove you didn't do it, is not how our system of justice operates. Maybe in China and North Korea, but not in the USA.
     
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    And the Deep State exists, and the media is out to GET the right, and Dirty Donnie is completely innocent of ANYTHING(even before he got elected) , and all of the 7 felons he hired were railroaded, and.....and......and.....

    You poor, poor, put-upon dear. Have some hot cocoa and try not to worry your pretty little head.
    Moscow Mitch has your back. He's already announced that the Senate trial is fixed.
     
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    How do you sleep at night thinking thoughts like your above statements? Get real, the US, militarily and economically is so much better off than we were under Bush and Obama, it is not calculable. Sit back and enjoy the fruits of the Trump presidency.
     
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    Of course the deep state exists. Only someone completely ignorant of how the US operates does not know this :)
     
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    What I find weird is that if Sandy had proof of Trump Colluding with Putin to affect the outcome of the 2016 election then why didn't he go to Mueller with it? All these RINOs and Leftists who KNOW that there was Trump/Russia collusion but won't pony up their proof. It's a puzzler.
     
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    Even though the Mueller report says no collusion or conspiracy they claim that is proof there was collusion or conspiracy. It's Bizarro world.

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    in Trump's own words what he wanted from the call

    the reporter asked him, he answered..... all on video

     
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    Yet, still no evidence of the dem clown show's claims of quid pro quo.
     
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    What's really a hoot is that none of them can explain why at some point they substituted feeeeeeeeeeeeeelings for logic and facts and evidence where either Trump or the GOP is concerned. After all people who had problems with Barack Obama also could point to the specifics. His race agitating was recorded. His disdain for this nation was recorded. Trying to blame an independent film producer for the Benghazi attack was recorded. All of that actually happened. But Trump? The best they can do -- as these articles of impeachment point out -- is natter about how miserable Trump as president makes . . . them . . . feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel.
     
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    The '30s are calling you.
     
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    How is filing a pile of BS and calling it evidence make it otherwise?
    Anyone can claim anything, sue for anything- that does not mean they won't be laughed out of court for behaving like jackasses. The senate constitutes the court here, so it won't be long.
    Then- How will it look if Durham brings criminal charges against some of those involved in conspiring to destroy Trump?
    His inquiry has already been advanced to a criminal investigation, pretty obvious they have cause, and a lot more substance than the bias of the dems pushing impeachment.
    I don't think there is a bottom of the democratic cesspool, however. When this fails, they will have another turd already lined up to take it's place.
     
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    What do you think extortion is if not an abuse of power
     
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    I only hope to be alive then
     

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