WATCH LIVE: House Judiciary Committee Debates Articles of Impeachment

(With)Holder was held in contempt so...

 

My People Eric Wing Man Holder can do no wrong!

 

Here is the guy that was hired to spy on Papadopolous.

 

So why can't Biden be investigated again? Plenty of evidence of corruption and the President said can you do US a favor, who do you think us is?

 

Distinctly probable it's not pursued post presidency, but the fact remains that many many people, who's job it is (or was) to make those determinations said there was enough in Volume 2 to sustain an indictment (Yah, Ham Sandwich, I know). Conviction?? Who knows... it would likely depend on the believeability of people like McGahn and other witnesses, which I would think would be strong...

But if things are within the Statute of Limitations (and they would be in 2021), it cannot be discounted as an option...

I personally think the bigger worry post-presidency for Trump is the Individual 1 allegations regarding Cohen and Stormy over Mueller OOJ (also within SOL)

Nadler never did have his Stormy hearing in October with Pecker and Davidson et al.... I guess a bigger fish to fry came along...

 

Gohmert is using the discussion of Gaetz amendment to talk about Horowitz report...

 

"This is unique so we don't have to hear from the courts."

The dem clown show will avoid their own civics lessons to get Trump.

 

Donald Trump's Political Campaign.

Why? Did you want to argue that an announcement of an investigation by a foreign government against Trump's domestic political opponent would benefit the United States of America?

 

The dem clown show is in such a hurry they are breaking the rules.

With the Democrats’ impeachment narrative decaying and falling apart exponentially, Rep. Nadler decided he had no choice but to ignore and break the rules of the House of Representatives. House Rule XI, clause 2(j)(1) states, “Whenever a hearing is conducted by a committee on a measure or matter, the minority members of the committee shall be entitled, upon request to the chair by a majority of them before the completion of the hearing, to call witnesses selected by the minority to testify with respect to that measure or matter during at least one day of hearing thereon.”

https://thegreggjarrett.com/rep-nadler-breaks-rules-to-speed-up-impeachment/

 

When I see that face, my finger automatically goes for the Mute button... There are only 3-4 R's I can actually tolerate listening to on this (or any committee)... Ratcliffe, Buck, Will Hurd, sometimes Johnson (LA).... The rest need to be checked that their shot records are current (and collars updated accordingly)...

 

I am sorry, but you are lying...either intentionally or through ignorance of the process and law. Ken Starr, during the Clinton impeachment, was an "Independent Special Counsel." After that, the law was changed, making the Special Counsel subordinate to the AG. Mueller, as noted in his report, never looked for "collusion," which is not a federal crime, but for "conspiracy between the Russians and members of the Trump campaign." That meant any individual. In that process he indicted a number of Russians and several members of the campaign. However, none of the Trump campaign members, to date, with the possible exception of Roger Stone, have been indicted on the Russian conspiracy charge. Simultaneously, Rosenstein charged Mueller with investigating the possibility of "obstruction of justice" by the President personally. Mueller failed to find sufficient evidence necessary to indict any campaign member of conspiracy with the Russian interference, but failed to reach ANY conclusion on his second charge of looking at "obstruction of justice." One reason for that was that in view of the DoJ policy on not indicting a sitting President, a conclusion that the President should be indicted would, without the possibility of a trial during his Presidential tenure, deprive the President of his due process right to a speedy trial and leave a cloud over the Presidency. Instead, he documented his evidence to date and left the decision to Barr (who could have repealed the DoJ policy...presumably at the risk of being immediately fired) or to Congress, to use the evidence to open an impeachment inquiry.
All of that was PRIOR to the Ukraine quid pro quo.
Simple question...IF you believe that Trump has been previously exonerated, why is the President condemning the Mueller Report?

 

Nadler addressed that point at the very beginning. There is zero precedent or requirement that the minority hearing day be used as a justification for delaying any vote.

 

SNIP
Notwithstanding the rights afforded the minority party under the minority witness rule, under clause 2(k)( of House Rule XI, a committee is “the sole judge of the pertinence of the testimony and evidence adduced at its hearing.” As such, a committee majority, applying a “reasonableness test,” retains the right to determine the relevance of testimony and the appropriate length of a Rule XI minority day of witnesses.
ENDSNIP

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RS/RS22637/11

Ruh Roh.... Hope Collins studied for his reasonableness test

In this case, Nadler has said the appropriate length of a Rule XI minority day = 0 minutes.

All likely would have been different if the WH had cooperated as requested.. but Trump wants it hard and fast....

 

Hmmm...East Texas, which is where Gohmert's district is, is the Deepest part of the Deep South. His big ears indicate he may be a distant relative of mine...SW Virginia transplants...some of whom moved to Texas to escape Reconstruction after the Civil War (although they were never slave owners...many of them got along with the native plantation owners).

 

Then I'm very sorry (on every level possible)....

 

Both Biden's are old enough to defend themselves and I am not a big fan of either. But whatever it is they are or are not guilty of does not exonerate Trump.

 

Which, of course, the rules contradict.

 

Tell me where the rule dictates when and how the minority hearing day must take place.

 

There is no need to follow the rules this situation is "unique" aka if they dont remove him from office he will be re-elected..

Now imagine a President that had 4 years to find out why certain dems were so damn focused on removing him no matter what could find....

 

Hahaha! No problem...all the better to hear with, although Louie is a good example of why hearing doesn't necessarily prove that you have anything worthwhile to say. And, my family left several generations ago.

 

Donald Trump doesn't decide the Democrat nominee. Are you saying Biden is already the nominee? Please inform the other clowns they can drop out now, it will mean less annoying robocalls come spring...

 

Well the rules do but the legislation the House voted on overrides it from what I understand. The Majority has used the rule to allow only one witness to the minority throughout this charade and that was someone that witnessed nothing, a professor.

 

Better hope the mods do see you calling folks liars, not that I'd report you, but you can get in trouble for that, especially since I'm not a liar, and you are simply confused. Whatever auspices the Mueller witch hunt was conducted, it ended with Trump 100% exonerated of 'collusion' which Democrats sold for almost two years. You can prance around and pretend the witch hunt had some other purpose, but the media and Democrats sold 'collusion'. Trump was exonerated of 'collusion' that should have ended all of this nonsense. Instead Democrats went it alone, clearly with no thought to the Constitution nor the most basic concepts of American legal jurisprudence, and started this 'impeachment' farce. I don't have to believe Trump was exonerated, he was, its not a matter of belief, its a matter of fact...

 

Of course it's just about Trump. He's a vile and vulgar man, who's a pathological liar. I would impeach and convict him on those grounds alone. But, wait a bit, you're going to have to buy into far, far more. The House Democrats will impeach him. The Senate Republicans will not convict him. And the result will be that he'll "double down" claiming that the Senate result frees him to do whatever he wants to do, under the "Unitary Presidency Theory," which he'll claim the Senate Republicans have confirmed. They're cutting their own throats. Most genuine Republican conservatives have already left the Party.

 

LOL, sads for the uniparty and democrat light republicans. If anyone is cutting their own throats are the dem clown show. History will not be kind to this impeachment effort. In fact their alleged 'evidence' is so bad they are not impeaching him for anything specific but a generality that has no basis other than butt hurt. They are in such a hurry they are unwilling to use the normal process of going to court like previous impeachments.