Democrats want to impeach President Trump on two counts.

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    After blowing millions in tax payer money democrats charge President Trump on two counts.

    1) We lost the election in 2016. *

    2) We cant win the election in 2020.

    * We wanted our criminal "her turn" serial liar Hillary to win.

    Are there any arguments against those two facts????
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't disagree but the left doesn't care, they want him out and don't care if it was done dishonestly or not
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Their actual charges against President Trump are about as thin as chicken soup made out of the shadow of a rooster.l
     
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    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    Didn't the President ask a foreign government to investigate a political rival?
    “There's a lot of talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me”

    Donald J. Trump: transcript released by White House
     
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    Biden's son is running for President?
     
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    Number one is a fact.
    Number two is a supposition. There is a lot of time between now and the election.

    And I was hoping BOTH Trump and Hillary would somehow be involved in an alien abduction before the election.
     
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    Did you notice that Biden was also mentioned by President Trump?
     
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    You mean because Biden bragged about it that we all can see for ourselves?
     
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    Something never quoted by the dem clown show, "if that's possible".

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    No, I mean he asked to have Biden investigated.
     
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    You mean to 'find out what happened', no mention of investigating and "if that's possible".
     
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    So he didn't want Biden and his son investigated?
     
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    Since it's essentially what Nancy herself said the other day -- plus some few other Dem Party's leaders -- it's difficult to see how they can refute it while adhering to any aspect of honesty at all.
     
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    That is the absolute truth..
     
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    Yup Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate corruption, absolutely NOTHING impeachable with that unless you csn prove he did it to get something of value in return.
     
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    From two people appointed to their jobs by President Trump:

    Ambassador Soundland: "Yes there was a quid pro quo."

    Mulvaney said: At a briefing: “What you’re describing is a quid pro quo,” asserted a reporter. “We do that all the time,” replied Mulvaney. “Did he also mention to me the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely. No question about it. But that’s it. That’s why we held up the money … I have news for everybody: Get over it. There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy.”
     
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    Also Sondland, "I was presuming".
     
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    That's what the Senate investigation is for. Otherwise it's a Catch 22 situation: You need to prove there was a crime but you can't investigate to see if the allegations are true.

    Given Trump's track record on telling the truth, it's not insane to at least assume the possibility he is lying about this.
    That's the problem with telling lies about everything as Trump does - it's impossible to tell if he's EVER telling the truth about anything.
     
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    Well, with that taking then how can you believe Schiff for brains after lying about Russia?
     
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    I "presume" the sun is going to rise every morning because it does. I presume Trump is going to tell a lie today because
    that is what he does.
     
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    Schiff wasn't testifying.
     
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    Nothing you just described is impeachable.
     
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    You can presume all you want but presumption is not evidence.
     
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    I know, he was just lying to you which apparently you like.
     
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    If a guy walks into a bank with a gun and a note - do I have to wait until he actually robs the bank, or will the courts not count that presumption as evidence. If the guy has been in jail before for robbing banks, would that be admissible evidence?
     

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