Boris Johnson on course for huge win in UK election, exit poll suggests

Yeah just like you'd stay in the EU after your "bestoutofthreemocracy" vote.

 

With thestrength it gained in the election the Scottish National Party will be again seeking to divorce itself from the United Kingdom as vderwell may the Northern Irish decide to reunify Ireland as a single country and both Scotland and a unified Ireland join the EU.

 

Duterte is the Filipino President, Bolsonaro is the Brazilian.There is another one knocking around, Viktor Orban of Hungary.

As someone else said earlier, the general consensus is that Boris will be able to use his majority to move to the centre. He has the numbers so has no reason to appease the ‘far right’. Boris himself is a very liberal conservative. I even think Trump is very liberal for a Republican.

 

my post was about Boris being a right wing politician. He may be right wing in GB but his platform is dead in the middle of the American dem party Please excuse my muddling up of the thread.

 

No. His biggest mistake was embracing socialism.

 

I see Orban more like an ultra nationalist than really far right.
Trump isn't far right at all. a bit more to the right than center right but way bellow what would be considered far right.

 

That and cozying with Hamas and Maduro...

 

And what tribe do you recall lived by the principle of Individual Rights? Understood the principle of Property Rights? The Apaches? The Commanches? The fatal error of the Indian nations was their refusal to renounce Tribalism and embrace Individualism. If they had had the courage to change that they showed in the battle against other tribes and nature, they'd be off the reservations and living successfully, independent lives as prosperous individuals.

 

Well, Corbyn is almost certainly Dead Man Walking, so we'll see who they pick as a replacement. Which type--Tony Blair or Neil Kinnock?

 

He already announced his resignation I think.

 

Hillary Ben would be a good ''Blair'' candidate.

 

He acted that way because some leftists are so politically correct that they won't even attempt to argue with someone from a minority group, for fear of appearing racist or xenophobic. It is in Corbyn's political DNA to surrender to such nonsense. The "left" needs to abandon its obsession with identity politics and start speaking the language of CLASS, specifically, the WORKING CLASS.

 

I would tend to agree. Corbyn's economic vision didn't resonate with working class people. Despite what many leftists seems to believe, most working class people don't want handouts from the government. They want to work and support themselves. They also want to protect their cultural identity, which is why they have become increasingly hostile towards immigration.

 

Not sure what you mean here...

There are political activists who support the land rights of Comanche's
But these people took the land from Apaches. So who do we give the
land back to? Maybe those native Americans the Apaches stole the
land from?
(I am interested in this BTW, I am related to Quana Parker)

Let's find the oldest people?

So if we go back to the oldest extant peoples in the Middle East then
we need to respect the Jews who lived in the Levant during the late
Bronze Age.

 

And this was the lot of the Australian Labor Party. I long supported this party,
but like my British counterparts I could no longer recognize the party.

 

Can't they just bin the party or something?

 

No you have him wrong. You have stereotyped him when he is one of the most genuine opponents of antisemitism, white nationalism and racism there is and has been all his life. Indeed in this horror show many of those accused of being antisemites were people who had been working in racism all their lives and also Jews who had the wrong views on Israel - you are correct that is what it was all about. However it was not even started by Jews but by the Blairite section of the Labour Party though of course they soon got them involved.

This was a deliberate attack on the leader of the opposition in order to psychologically destroy his possibility of gaining power - given that people keep claiming when they were on the doorstep people claimed they hated him seemed they achieved what they wanted. The UK at the moment imo is not acting like a democracy.

So why did he not act how he started to act during the election when the media kept demanding he apologise to the Jewish community over antisemitism - and complained even more when he did not. Other Labour Politicians and Momentum were fighting it at first. They were saying it was a smear campaign which it most certainly was and then the Jewish community started saying that it was antisemetic to say that and then they got a whole lot to protest outside Parliament claiming Labour was antisemetic - and I am sure some of them absolutely believed it because unless you did research it would seem like that particularly if that is what your leaders were telling you.

Corbyn is totally against racism not because he plays any non genuine pc act but because he hates it. To fight this would have been liable to increase antisemitism in the UK - I mean if people are accusing a leader of antisemitism because they do not like his attitude towards a foreign country...well then. That is what I came to the conclusion was the reason. I suspect he was harmed because you would walk a long way to find anyone so genuinely against antisemetism and he would not do something which would harm the Jewish community. It is seen as weakness though and I too have thought that but that is the only motivation I can come up with.

The UK'S Politics and media is as against Democratic Values as the US. In the next post I am going to put in a video of one of our most intelligent left people describing what is going on/needs to be going on but I suspect like with yourselves, the UK or rather England is moving towards its own version of fascism.

 

You will find at 34.37 min of the video below a completely different view of the situation to what is on here by Paul Mason. Well worth a listen.

 

I love it how liberals just can’t accept the reality. At first it was the claim that people who voted for Brexit didn’t know what they were voting for. Now, it’s the fault of the leadership of the opposition.
Is it really that hard to live in reality and accept the will of the people?

 

Scotland won’t be able to rejoin the EU.
Spain has Catalonia, and to allow Scotland to rejoin would send its own separatists a very bad message.

 

They are unlike Catalonia in that the Scots have always felt themselves to be a different country from England with different culture leaving the EU will be a total pain in the butt to the English who will now need a passport to go to ay of the countries on the European continent.Will they need an international driver license to drive in EU countries,lots of pain in the butt changes.And they better not try to reintroduce the hard border in Ireland ever again, or they will see a resurgence of the IRA.

 

The hard border is inevitable if leave is to manifest itself.

 

Don't ya just
the impartial media?

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Gone are the days of good sportsmanship in politics.
Honoring the vote of the people.
Now it is, Oh My, The People Didn't Vote Correctly, Again.

Sad State of Western Democracy.


Moi

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This is a victory for democracy.
For years the labor party were doing the exact oposite of what their voters wanted.
Not only that, they said their voters were like children who did not know what is good for them.
Well, they got kicked out now.
Parts of Britain that have been labor for decadeds voted otherswise.
Britain has showed us all the power of democracy.

 

Makes me remember this film,
The Scots are really feisty sometimes.