Capitalism destroying the Internet.

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It used to be that if you wanted to know about something, say the definition of a word, or the location of a particular landmark, all one had to do was type the word or place into a web browser, and a link to relevant information would come up in the first page. Now, if you you don't put definition after the word, you're likely to get pages of links to ads.

 

Happens all the time around here. Someone will post a link that is behind a pay wall. Or one that will require one's email to proceed.

 

This is one of those dividing lines between the political right and left. The right desires large corporations and the power they wield. The left wants to limit the size of a corporation, so it doesn't wield too much power - even those corporations that lean left.

A major issue among modern Democrats is to limit the amount of money that can be used to influence votes. Why should the guy with the biggest wallet be allowed to buy our elections and dictate policy?

 

Net neutrality was a Trojan horse designed to sneak in

Another gross over simplification be on your part. The Neocons and top end progressive love big corporations. In fact big government loves big corporations after all if your goal is to micromanage the country fewer and bigger is much better than smaller and way more numerous

 

Everything in your world is based around somebody giving you something for free.

Do you know the cost to host a site like this? The cost is based on bandwidth usage, and for a highly traffic site like this, the owner fronts a lot of money.

What's amazing to me is that they don't even run advertising on this site to offset costs. Yet here you are, accessing it for free, complaining about the operator with their hand out while simultaneously the entire basis of your political spectrum is having your hand out.

The irony is thick with you.

 

Does somebody owe you that information? You just simply can't comprehend reality.

That information was obtained, written, formatted, edited, and published. All the people involved in that effort don't do it for free for you to enjoy. They do it to earn a paycheck, which means it costs money to produce. The content provider then needs do charge you, in order to pay the people that generate and deliver the information.

I mean... how can people not understand this simple concept. Just remember, these people vote too.

 

Simple. Guilt.

Many people that have earned fortunes feel bad for their success knowing that they have amassed huge amounts of wealth. This they advocate liberal Robinhood policies out of guilt, but never for themselves. Its all just a two faced attempt at feeling better about themselves in the face of scrutiny for they wealth. They don't actually want to give up any money.

 

It's understandable that people who think "free" is like a constitutional right will be offended.
Anybody providing a service has a motive related to money. Everything we do costs money to do. When it appears to be "free", that means the either somebody else is paying, usually to get you to sign up in some way they can benefit from, or is being paid for by someone who will, in perhaps a variety of ways, benefit from doing so.

Free sites profit from advertisers. They get you there because it's free, then advertisers pay them for the right to throw ads and promotions at you. Those that are free but don't hammer you with ads, like this forum- depends on the voluntary support of those who think it has value. I've made a number of donations here for exactly that reason. I think I'll do that again today, because this reminds me of it's value.

There are always expenses- bandwidth, equipment, people- thus there must always be somebody paying for it. Sometimes it's not you. Many times, it is you and you aren't aware of it because it not paid directly or up front. But- if no money comes in to pay the bills, the "free" services have to disappear.
It's not unfair that more things aren't free. It's unfair that some people refuse to pay their own share.

PS-
Just dropped $20 in the kitty to help you keep getting the "free" service of this forum. I'm sure anybody who cares to match or beat that will be appreciated!

 

If you can't get any poontag without ressorting to online dating services, then the fact they're not free is the least of your problem...

 

I don't seem to have any problems. I guess you and I just go to different websites. Requiring an email is still free.

 

The end of Net Neutrality has resulted in virtually all sites now looking for some kind of monetary payment for the use of their site.The end of the internet as we knew it.

 

What's Wrong With Socialism?

 

If they place some capitals into it, then they should earn to get their money back.

 

The internet would have stayed a text-based, difficult-to-navigate hodge-podge of forums and BBS's if it weren't for capitalists creating the modern world wide web. Chances are, if the government hadn't dominated tech resources thus "funding the creation" of the internet, we might have free to the public 20 years earlier.

 

Capitalism created the internet. There isn't a business out there that didn't have to invest to attract customers. There isn't a successful business that didn't occasionally choke on that investment, being forced to reorganize. There isn't a business out there that, after huge investments, didn't have to charge for the value they provide.

Progressivism is the culprit that is destroying the internet just as it has destroyed everything in its path. Thankfully, there are good capitalists to rescue it. For instance ,,, we used to be able to search the internet trusting that Google will present search results based solely on their fidelity to your inputs. No longer. Progressives, intolerant of ideas they don't share and not above using their platform for brainwashing people, skew the results ,,, forcing those of us who are aware of their games to use search engines like DuckDuckGo.com.

Dorsey, being intolerant of people who post facts that contradict his perverted ideology shadow bans Twitter users he doesn't agree with forcing those of us who are aware of his games to use sites like Gab.com

Zuckerburg, anxious to elect Hillary, unmasked personal data and relationships among people ---- exposing them to the worst kind of phishing attacks. I canned my Phishbook account.

Progressives have destroyed the internet. As we approach Federal Elections and as Progressives provide billions in value to their favorite Fascist Progressive candidates, I can only hope that the DOJ catches up with them.

 

I'm not sure what sites you are speaking of....but I assume news media formerly known as newspapers? Major Newsrooms hired 100s of reporters to supply content. They need to be paid for the content they supply. It isn't capitalism changing the landscape but our move to digital information.

 

I'm always amused by adults who still believe in "free". What a Santa Claus mentality. Whether the OP realizes it or not, he just wants someone else to pay his way. Personally, if I felt that way, I'd keep it to myself out of shame. "Free"? Give me a break.

 

Initially, the Internet was indeed free and open. It was also nowhere near as useful as today. Let's take this forum as an example. It provides organization, management, and content (by members) that involves some expenses to operate. It is a service paid for by contributions. Some managed sites pay for their service with click through counts. I think the key is that professionally created and managed sites are a far cry from the "good old Internet."

If you like a certain site, you may be expected to contribute or pay a fee. It's your choice and there is a lot of stuff to chose from. It's good old American innovation and capitalism in action.

 

your free to put up a free site as are others

but agree sites like youtube will squeeze out anyone that the rich and powerful do not want speaking, and they will do this by denying them ad revenue

 

socialism is coming in the future, that is a reality, foreign outsourcing, foreign imports and Artificial Intelligence will leave the future no choice - Corporatism is destroying capitalism

 

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The left desires a big government and the power it wields, over private people and private companies

 

Yup a bunch of lazy ass people relying on the government.

 

corporations say people that give free content are harming society... thus, free content will be harder and harder for people to produce as it cuts into corporate profits

 

just like cars replaced those lazy horses... the reality is... in the near future human workers will be replaced by AI, just like cars replaced the need for the horse and buggy - we can fight it, but it's coming, like it or not