Authoritarianism

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for proving you have no grasp of history less if political theory and in general that you are a fully indoctrinated leftist human being. Who apparently accepts the noxious doctrine that only government can set you free while having no Idea whatever what true freedom means.
     
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    Can I ask, when in your adult life have you 'felt' the most free
     
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    Sorry but Europe has not become less violent as much as you think. For instance: WW1, Spanish Civil War , WW11, Korean War, French Indonesian War, Vietnam war, A French Algerian War Afghanistan, Irag x2, post Yugoslavia and that's off the top of my head. Everyone of these conflicts had European protagonists and all in the last 100 yrs. Lot quieter in the Middle Ages.
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I accept your pathetic and abject surrender.
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why bother, when you can go the fascist route and tell producers how they must produce "for the common good."
     
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    And yet it is "liberals" who want to use government to control everyone and everything.

    College campuses are hotbeds of bigotry and intolerance, and many openly advocate abolishing the 1st amendment.

    Democrats make up the deep state that is weaponizing our institutions to use against anyone who dares oppose their "liberal" agenda.

    Amazing that you leftists can somehow screw your positions around to assume you have the moral high ground :-?
     
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    It is their belief that their moral highground justifies using the violence of the police powers of the state. They are as devoted to moralizing and forcing others to conform to their morals as the religious right.
     
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    I grew up and now live in the buckle of the Bible Belt. 200+ churches in my county of 100,000. All blue laws have been abolished without any opposition at all. Regardless of outliers like Falwell and TV preachers over the years, the "religious right" has far more of a live and let live attitude than Leftists IME. A Christian person or group attacking, doxxing, boycotting, threatening, etc. someone due to their religion, politics or anything else is pretty much unheard of around here. Every now and then there will be a preacher in public downtown. Despite media lies for decades, most fundamentalist Christians just want to practice their faith and spread the gospel, be left alone otherwise. I don't believe as they do, but they are generally very fine people, especially compared to modern Leftist hypocrites.
     
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    It wasn't that way in the 80's.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    True, lots of things were different 40 years ago, my phone still had a dial on it for one and 30% of the population smoked for another. When is the last time you heard of some "religious right" violence that wasn't a nutter at an abortion clinic? When is the last time you heard of "liberal" violence? Last week?
     
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    I am perfectly free today to do whatever I want within my means. I must answer to nobody.

    But that does not mean the US government is operating in accordance with the US Constitution or that politicians tell the truth.
     
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    As a conservative I raised my three kids to be good stewards of nature, to respect everyone, to be responsible and take responsibility for their actions, and instilled them with an insatiable appetite to work and succeed.
    Not to grow and smoke dope in the backyard.
     
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    Free from what. Freedom is always freedom from something. Are you asking when was one most free from unjust infringement on their authority over and responsibility for their self, or are you asking when one was most free from authority over and responsibility for their self?

    My point is this, freedom and liberty (the individual's authority over and responsibility for their self) can refer to two very different things. Freedom is always freedom from something. One can be free from anything. One can be free from life or free from death. One can be free from wealth or free from poverty. But, liberty always refers to the same thing - the individual's authority over and responsibility for their self.

    That written, I am most free from unjust infringement on my liberty when I am camping.
     
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    Because it was primarily under Democrats control, the blue laws went away gradually.

    Heck when I first moved to south Carolina in 2004 you couldn't go to a local Walmart and buy clothes on a Sunday morning

    Only food and diapers


    The blue laws
     
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    In times past it was worse. It used to be common to beat children and workers. That behavior has been going out of style for a couple of centuries.
     
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    Ever hear of Patriot Prayer. They had a short lived career as a violent right wing gang. That is until the local police rounded them up.
     
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    Did they run around in mask and act like idiots ? All ANIFTA is another OWS a bunch of punk kids raping women and taking poops on cop cars



     
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    So you're willing to throw your money away on fuel for a gas guzzler and pollute the air your kids breath just to prove you are different.
     
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    A valid observation, but unless you have included yourself in that assessment,
    you have effectively separated yourself from the rest of us, and identified yourself as the special one.
    That would make you the snowflake.
     
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    Its called freedom..


    You ever hear of that concept?
     
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    Why would one want to be a collective sheep instead of an individual?
     
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    Freedom is not the best word to describe it.
    How about illogical?
     
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    Are you pretending you're not part of a flock?
     
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    Like 90% of the rest of us when I was ten. Once you become and adult you start find road blocks. AS an adult when I was in college. Now let me ask you a question what is liberty?
     
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    Liberalism is not bad.But being a leftist is.Thomas Jefferson and
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan were Liberals.
    Our Constitution was formed to err on the side of Liberty.Not
    the side of Equality.
    Our Constitution was never intended to be fluid and change with
    the times.Our bill of rights cannot be altered as if a Super Bowl
    game and the call of the umpires on a single play.Where 4 quarters
    of hard play can boil down to s single call on a single play.
    As the call of the Supreme Court on Roe vs. Wade,inpacting for decades
    the rights of the unborn and Democrats taking every advantage of since.
    If only sane americans looked at their brother or sister and wondered
    what if an Abortion was used on them.
    There is absolutely no question or debating Obama was a
    Liberal.The 2nd most Liberal voting record in the senate { 2007 }.
    Yet in 2008 any mention of Obama as Liberal was deemed Off Limits
    by Chicago Commie David Axelrod.In the place of Liberal,Obama
    was roundly advertised as a Moderate.
    That is how an Authoritarian thinks and acts.Words and actions
    be damned.It's Their way or the Highway ... preferably 24/7.
     
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