UK Conservatives win BIG: Boris Johnson hails 'new dawn' after historic victory

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  1. philosophical

    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    And comiserations to families who will mourn murdered loved ones due to the hard border created in Ireland because of Brexit.
     
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    A majority of Brits voted to leave the EU. It was a fair, democratically conducted election. The Tories didn't win because the Mainstream media filled their heads with lies. The lies the mainstream media has been telling is how diversity is so wonderful.
    England is heading for English Nationalism? Of course it is. The English want their country to remain a country for the English, just like China wants to remain a country for the Chinese, and the Indians want India to remain a country for Indians; and Africa wants to remain a continent for Africans; and same for Japan, for Mexico, for all the countries in South America, like Saudi Arabia wants to remain a country for Saudis. It's perfectly fine for people to want to preserve their culture, and ethnicity--unless you're of European ancestry.
    What you are afraid of is that your plan to transform Europe into an predominately Muslim, Islamic cesspool is not going to happen.
    You suggest that the conservatives can't think for themselves and were brainwashed by the media. What a crock! You also suggest that the right side won because they are racist. In other words, you didn't get your way and now your out to demonize Europeans who want a country of their own without having to sidestep around, and subsidize immigrants. You will NOT take over our countries. Brits screamed that loud and clear in the election.
    By the way, thanks for enlightening us about our history. OUR HISTORY.
     
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    Is that your philosophical opinion? Ridiculous comment.
    Accusation after accusation after accusation. Demonization full speed ahead. They aren't Russian assets. Dumb-ass liberals are stalin wannabees though.

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    Oh please. Spare us all the drama. You don't commiserate about anything except the election, and the growing tide of European pride.
     
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    Totally accurate comment.
     
  6. Montegriffo

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    What ''long run collective leftist rule? The UK hasn't had a leftist PM since before Thatcher.
     
  7. philosophical

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    Go on then clever clogs. How will leave manifest itself on the land border in Ireland?

    I was born in Kent by the way, and my wife in Beijing. I am aware how the growing tide of European pride threatens us. What do you suggest? A 'final solution' for my wife and children in order to achieve European purity and pride?
     
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    Reforming the EU will be less likely without the UK blocking further federalisation. Germany and France are in a much stronger position now.
     
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    But some Scottish seats are won by as few as two votes - and there are ongoing police investigations over fraudulent tamperings with ballot papers in a few Scottish seats - and this vote in Scotland was against the Cons as opposed to for the SNP. Not to mention that legally a second Indi cannot be run for 'a generation' - that was set as binding in law for the 1st Indi referendum.
     
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    Legally - as in by binding law - Scotland cannot have another Indi Ref for the term of a generation - five years is a very short bloody generation!
     
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    Fact remains that Scotland wants acess to the EU. They feel more connection for the EU than UK.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is nonsense.
    .....
    https://twitter.com/YesScot

    see her here

    https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1206144812065251330
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    error
     
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    They didn't in 2014 even with 16 yr olds being given the vote.
     
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    Somehow Corbyn is claiming victory.
     
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    They all forget, that the UK has already left the EU, it was suspended the moment article 40 was invoked.
    The EU has moved on, without the UK.
    It is all about the formalities of Brexit and the domestic mess in the UK.
     
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    Rather like the victory declaration of a dead skunk in the middle of the road.

     
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    Once the UK fully leaves the EU we can expect terrorist violence because of the land border in Ireland.
     
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    They stayed in on the promise that the UK stays in the EU.

    I have a question though, how do you deal with the fact, that Scotland is that pro EU and kicked out of it against its will? How will you try to heal that as a nation?

    Or doesnt matter since they have to kneel?
     
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    The BIGGEST winner in the U.K.election was Sturgeon and her Scottish National Party which picked up 13 seats about 23% gain, bigger than BoJo's.
     
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    I seriously doubt independent Scotland would be allowed back into EU.
    Spain would not let them. They have Catalonia and this would send their own separatists a very bad message.
    Joining the EU requires unanimous support. Without Spain Scotland will never be able to join. All they can get is some for of free trade agreement, similar to what UK will get.

    So, Scottish independence is like an attempt to put out fire with gasoline. If it actually happens they’ll screw themselves majorly.
     
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    In Trump's second term he will force them to pay for their defense.
    They will have bigger pressure from immigrants from within and from the outside.
    Turkey will continue to blackmail them.
    They will have to continue to carry the failing economies of the south of Europe on the one hand and the right wing growing forces from the east.
    Good luck keeping EU for another 20 years.
    There is no reform, only collapse.
    In three years time you will see Sobo here calling 'Germany for the Germans'.
     
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    The EU has been carrying its weaker members since day one. That is one of the reasons for its existence.
    Free trade and movement of money and goods throughout Europe is going nowhere. Especially when it becomes obvious what it does to the UK economy when it no longer benefits from the single market.
     
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    Except for Italy, the so called South European countries are doing rather well.
     
  25. philosophical

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    Maybe the Scots want the liberty to screw themselves majorly rather than have the English screw them majorly.
    Then again if being screwed is all about money maybe the Scots think there are other things more important to themselves than money.
    I don't know really because nationalists are very questionable everywhere, most especially the English nationalists who won the leave vote and who won the General Election.
    Hopefully workers will get the confidence to withdraw their labour (without pay) when they feel screwed over. Industrial action might well increase and in that way an individual can assert their right not to participate in Tory nationalist foreigner hating England.
     

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