Majority of voters now oppose impeachment: Quinnipiac poll

Yes.

And the Bill Clinton / Donald Trump Impeachment exercises
are an abuse and devaluation of impeachment by the H of R.
Purely Political.
Having nothing to do with the well being of the nation.

 

Mmm. Don't know.

Trump talks impeachment with two Senate Republicans who may not be with him
Sens. Romney and Collins, along with Murkowski of Alaska, are the only three in the GOP who refused to join a resolution blasting the House inquiry..

 

Yeah. I know. But I still think the number you are overlooking is 70% think what Trump did was wrong.

 

Yes, the two Senators who voted against Kavanaugh's confirmation, plus Romney of course. Indictment requires 2/3rd's vote in favor though, not a simple majority. Those 3 people won't tilt that in any meaningful way.

 

I'm not overlooking any numbers. I think that Trump made an unforced error in bringing up Joe and Hunter's names specifically, so it was not the "perfect" phone call he claims. But impeachable? No. You can think a president made a mistake and was therefore "wrong", but still opine that he should not be impeached for the mistake.

The "Should he be impeached/removed" question carries more weight.

 

There are no Democrats under the illusion the Senate will vote for removal.
But the split makes the rules issue more interesting.

 

Romney similar to McCain suffers from

It Should Have Been Me Syndrome.​

In a pinch, such sufferers cannot be trusted beyond their egos.


I first noticed the syndrome as Senator Teddy Kennedy
sabotaged the Carter Presidency.



Moi

STOP ​

 

Yes, like Clinton.
But it makes it a little tricky for the Pubs to vote no in the face of the evidence and the public thinking.

 

What evidence unlike any previous modern president's behavior.

What public thinking? The media driven line.

 

No one in the country is under the illusion that Trump will be removed from office. The end game was set from the beginning. Like Greg Gutfeld said in the last few days, this impeachment is predetermined like watching an old Harlem Globetrotters game. They play the game to entertain the crowd, but everyone knows that the Globetrotters will win every game.

Too bad that impeachment is a more impactful on the country's morale and sense of unity than an orchestrated basketball game. That's what some Democrats wanted though, so Pelosi is working to serve a plurality of her constituents' desires.

 

Yeah....the "public thinking" is 50/50...and the "evidence" is a matter of interpretation of intent.

 

I see it as the requirement to follow your duty as a congress person.
When I saw the transcript I said oh ****, she has to do it.

 

Well, there you go then. It is representatives' duty to serve their constituents. Never mind that Pelosi's constituents are 275,000 people who voted for her in the San Francisco area, which is a cesspool of poop and used heroin needles. Never mind that the full house voted "No" more than once on moving forward with impeachment, but Pelosi/Schiff/Nadler kept pushing without support of the entire House of Representatives, because the smaller committees could succeed, making the entire process more and more partisan at each step.

Very happy that Pelosi is serving your needs though. Someone had better get some joy and satisfaction out of this.

 

All it took was the "perfect" phone call.
It's a shame they can't get him for felony campaign violations.

 

So what ??? The polls predicted Hillary would win.

 

There is nothing criminal in the phone call transcript.

 

Haha. It's a very different matter, using a poll as intended to get an idea of public opinion, as opposed to using a poll to try and predict a future election.

 

Polling is polling. And actually is a prediction of the 2020 election. Once again the polling in the individual states is what is important.

 

Honestly, there's a reason we as a country created the term "low information voter". And that 70% number is a big part of that. Here's what we've established(or failed to establish):

-We've established that the POTUS didn't bribe, or intimidate the Ukrainian President.
-We've established that a quid pro quo didn't take place between the POTUS and the Ukrainian President.
-We have testimony from the Ukrainian President/Prime Minister that aid wasn't a topic of discussion and they didn't know it was being held up.

-And as pointed out numerous times by Rep Jim Jordan(R-Ohio): "They got the call, they got the meeting, they got the aid."

So, since all of this is established fact, let me ask that 70% of America: Where's the wrongdoing here? That the President's personal lawyer(Giuliani) was involved? But there've been past instances by other presidents where their legal team was also involved. So if it's not that(and there's no law against it). then what really are we talking about?

Is Impeachment a political fiat device? Well, if it wasn't before it is now. But the "importance" of impeachment just got shat.

 

They couldn't get John Edwards either(or Obama) and their financial contributions FAR outweighed Stormy Daniels by 5-10 times the amount lol.

I don't even think it should be a crime, the way it's structured. It should just be a misdemeanor and/or a political rule to be enforced/punished.

 

Propaganda Alert!

 

Gaslighting Alert!

Three lies. Lie of Omission: Trump solicited foreign help in the 2020 election. Trump attempted to trade an announced investigation into Joe Biden for arms and a Zelensky White House visit. We have no testimony from Zelensky.

Propaganda Alert!

Trump broke the law.

Propaganda Alert!

 

Such disrespect for your country and its constitution.

 

The Left's leadership is fiddling while Rome burns; or . . . using the INTENT of the Constitution for their political toilet paper. It will be interesting to see what new polling states after the utterly partisan decision to send the impeachment process to a floor vote. The nation's politically corrupted news outlets will play it up as wholly justified and necessary, but this particular poll results aside, we already know that pretty much ONLY certain sections of the leftist packed eastern and western seaboards are really paying attention to this impeachment farce at all. That does not bode well for the political Left in this nation.

 

This ^^^ is exactly what the framers were worried about - that impeachment would be used as a political tool to unjustly remove an elected President from office because the opposing party did not like him. And for that reason the press was given powers that would enable them to report the truth to American voters. The press is complicit in this political impeachment attempt. It makes me sick to listen to the local nightly news in which untruths are spouted to those interested but without the time to invest in really understanding the lynching being perpetrated by the Banana Republic (formerly know as the Democratic) Party.