Article II: Contempt of Congress -- Invalid charge

The chicken shits never went to a judge.
They know the whole thing is for show

 

When did the subpoenaed individuals challenge their legality in order to get them quashed. It is not up to Congress to show a specific subpoena is legal because they have the legal right to subpoena. It is up to the party that objects to the subpoena to show why it should be quashed. The subpoenas were not challenged they were ignored.

 

Deflection doesn’t make you any less wrong

 

Subpoenas are legal unless ruled otherwise. Who ruled these illegal? Nobody? Then the article and charge stands.

 

Congress can subpoena documents and people, but the legislative branches are coequal. Congress can try to compel compliance through the courts, which they have. The courts have accepted the cases, implying that Trump was within the rights of the Constitution to question the legitimacy Legislative branch's subpoena.

Since the multitude of demands by Congress was an admission that their subpoena's were partisan attacks, it's likely that Trump will prevail.

 

Actually, Obama, a Constitutional genius in your mind, said that Congress didn't have the power to compel testimony from the executive or production of documents. That's enough for me. It should be enough for Obama worshipers.

 

Has no relevance to anything being discussed.

 

Who died and left you in charge?

 

I’m sorry you tried to deflect and got called on it. Don’t deflect and you won’t be called out for it. Pretty simple.

 

Impeachment of the president has been done so rarely that there is very little guidance on how it should be done. Generally, only precedence and court decisions provide any guidance and only court decisions are binding. There is nothing in the constitution that says the president has to do a thing. That can be challenged in court, but so far it has not. Until then the president can ignore or plead executive privilege. Only the supreme court can change that.

 

So, you cannot tell me when the subpoenas as were ruled legal. Thanks.
Absent that ruling, the statement from congress - that Trump ignored "legal" subpoenas - is an assumption of fact not in evidence.
Thus, Article II is invalid.

 

Precedent is always right on point. Congress does not command presidents or the Executive Branch.

 

False. Dirty Donnie is guilty of obstruction: of Congress, of justice.

As for the Articles of Impeachment, they are legal on their face. No “ruling” is required one way or the other.

This is just the opening of the Trumpster and Republican combined clown show where they attempt to put a “due process” face of the outcome they have already announced.

Go for it. In doing so you will show what corrupt and criminal creatures you are. And completely un-American.

 

Congress has constitutionally granted oversight of the executive. This is reality. Deflection doesn’t change reality.

 

Skip the ad hominem and look up "checks and balances" and "separation of powers".
The 3 branches of our government were not designed to get along with each other.

 

What does "oversight" have to do with compelling compliance with subpoenas?

 

That’s where impeachment for obstruction comes in.

 

Then according to your logic, the House could do anything they want during impeachment. They could order the president to commit suicide and then charge him with obstruction when he does not comply.

If there is a dispute, it will be appealed to the supreme court. The constitution is only saying that the house is the only body which can impeach. Not that they can do anything they want without recourse.

 

Of course the entire impeachment stems from facts not in evidence!

 

SCOTUS has the power to decide the Constitutionality of legal questions.

 

Please cite the statute.

 

Wrong, in disputes between Congress and the president it is the courts that decide. Congress cannot usurp that power from the courts.

 

uh, everything

 

In fact, the House cannot compel the Executive to do anything at all.
Surely you know that.

 

of course it can. failure to comply with a lawfully issued subpoena is an impeachable offense. Which is 1 of the reasons trump was impeached.