Trump impeached by the House for abuse of power, obstruction of Congress

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Do you feel impeachment set a bad precedence and weakened future presidencies?

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  1. KJohnson

    KJohnson Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations democrats!

    You went there, you did what you set out to do for over three years. You've been screaming impeachment since months before the election. Before the president even took office.

    For four years, even after trying to frame the president with a false dossier, weaponizing the FBI, and UNSUCCESSFULLY going on a rabid hunt for a crime that would fit "High Crimes and Misdemeanors," you did the unthinkable and settled for "Abuse of Power."

    Your family members must be proud because now due to your frivolous unpatriotic actions, future presidents will be afraid to make those tough decisions needed for fear of being impeached. They'll be like the Queen of England, a symbol in name only, stripped of all real power just waving to crowds because no matter which party they represent, for all intents and purposes, they'll be powerless to get anything done.

    So once again...you've managed to put another nail in the coffin of this country and the constitution.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...ry/trump-impeached-house-abuse-power-n1104196
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    It is a (non-existent) risk that I gladly accept.

    Trump set two records yesterday. The first President to ever get impeached in his first term. He also set the record for the most impeachment votes.

    And he achieved both records because he ****ed up.

    Merry Impeachmas!
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats set the first record for a partisan impeachment.
     
  4. Richard Franks

    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

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    Well, well, well, Our 45th President Donald Trump is the 3rd President to be IMPEACHED so all the Presidents of the United States this country ever had. Did anyone think that Trump would be impeached? I don't know if anyone would have thought that Trump would ever be elected President. It's scary to know what will happen next.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The number 3 House Democrat, James Clyburn, just said this about President Trump:

    "Hang him!"

    This hatred and anger is out of control!
     
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    Vote4Future Well-Known Member

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    And they couldn't even get all Democrats to vote in the affirmative! Political hack failure and that ancient Speaker of the House knows what she has done. Congratulations to President Donald J. Trump on your January 20, 2021 Inauguration!
     
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    Honestly, the impeachment is a nothing-burger.

    The fact that the controlling majority in the House has gone off the deep end is an acknowledgement that the president is doing something right. One way to stop the hyper-progressive agenda is to completely derail its proponents with meaningless pursuits.
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Justin Amash has one of the most conservative voting records in Congress.
     
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    The reason that the controlling majority even has their majority is because of Trump. The only reason that the controlling majority has impeached Trump is because of Trump.

    So, Trump set up for Democrats to take the majority and then he set himself up for impeachment.

    Meanwhile the Democrats in the House have passed nearly 400 bills, over 275 of which have bipartisan support. The Democrats have proven they can govern and impeach Trump at the same time.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Terrible day for Democrats yesterday:

    —Trump campaign raises $5 MILLION off of impeachment

    —Bipartisan vote AGAINST impeachment

    —Obamacare individual mandate ruled unconstitutional

    —Mitch McConnell confirms 13 federal judges in the Senate

    Sick of WINNING yet?
     
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    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Amazing to see videos of both Moscow Mitch and Schumer talking about the twenty year ago impeachment of Clinton and how each is now completely 180 degrees opposite of what they said back then.Just shows that politics was JUST AS PARTISAN back then as they are today.
     
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    For a Democrat.

    Justin Amash, Representative for Michigan's 3rd Congressional District - GovTrack us.png
     
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    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm bored so I'll play your game...

    and next year he will become the first President acquitted in his first term and likely reelected.

    The burning question is will Nancy Pelosi be the first Speaker of the House to lose the house twice?

    Happy AcquitYear
     
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    They thought this was going to hurt out feelings or something I think.
     
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    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

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    I for one believe that Trump shouldn't have been elected President, if we knew more about of Trump and who he really is. Trump was never in the military or held any political office that any of us know about. To me Trump is an arrogant individual that puts himself first before anything. Trump is not presidential material like Obama was or Bushes, Carters, Reagans ever were Trump lives in a fantasy world of his own doing, He doesn't care about anything or anyone. There are Republicans that have to be loyal to Trump or they will be ruined by Trump. In 2016, Trump had no experience in politics of government like Hilary Clinton did. Look at Hilary, She was a former First Lady, a Senator from New York, and a former Secretary of State. and that adds up enough to handle the Presidency. I voter for her because of experience not because she was a woman. This country made the mistake of electing Trump into office and now a majority of Democrats are to impeach Trump and I have to say Amen to that. I think they might go out to impeach Pence but that I believe that's a rumor. Pence will have to take over from there.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :applause:
     
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    I don't recall outrage from the right over Clinton's impeachment on lies about sex. You reap what you sowed!
     
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    Guess you'll have to wait to find out.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So when do you think they will remove Trump from office so Pence can take over?
     
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    No clue about your source. Mine is Conservativereview.com and it includes his "non member" votes on Impeachment.

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    And Freedom Works

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    Of course, Democrats who never accepted the election results talked about it from Day 1. It says more about the House clowns than it does Trump.
     
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    He doesn't even know if he's running next year. Guess that evens out the NJ rep abandoning your party.
     
  24. Richard Franks

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    For those of you who don't know the other Presidents that were Impeached, Here what you want to know:
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    The impeachment of Andrew Johnson was initiated on February 24, 1868, when the United States House of Representatives resolved to impeach Andrew Johnson, 17th president of the United States, for "high crimes and misdemeanors", which were detailed in eleven articles of impeachment. The primary charge against Johnson was violation of the Tenure of Office Act, passed by Congress in March 1867, over his veto. Specifically, he had removed from office Edwin M. Stanton, the Secretary of War—whom the Act was largely designed to protect—and attempted to replace him with Brevet Major General Lorenzo Thomas. (Earlier, while the Congress was not in session, Johnson had suspended Stanton and appointed General Ulysses S. Grant as Secretary of War ad interim.)
    Johnson became the first American president to be impeached on March 2–3, 1868, when the House formally adopted the articles of impeachment and forwarded them to the United States Senate for adjudication. The trial in the Senate began three days later, with Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase presiding. On May 16, the Senate failed to convict Johnson on one of the articles, with the 35–19 vote in favor of conviction falling short of the necessary two-thirds majority by a single vote. A ten-day recess was called before attempting to convict him on additional articles. The delay did not change the outcome, however, as on May 26, it failed to convict the president on two articles, both by the same margin, after which the trial was adjourned.
    The impeachment and trial of Andrew Johnson had important political implications for the balance of federal legislative–executive power. It maintained the principle that Congress should not remove the president from office simply because its members disagreed with him over policy, style, and administration of the office. It also resulted in diminished presidential influence on public policy and overall governing power, fostering a system of governance which Woodrow Wilson referred to in the 1870s as "Congressional Government".[1] Johnson remained the only U.S. president to have been impeached and faced a Senate trial for over a century, until Bill Clinton became the second in 1998.
    The impeachment of Bill Clinton was initiated on October 8, 1998, when the United States House of Representatives voted to commence impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton, the 42nd president of the United States, for "high crimes and misdemeanors". The specific charges against Clinton were lying under oath and obstruction of justice. The charges stemmed from a sexual harassment lawsuit filed against Clinton by Paula Jones and from Clinton's testimony denying that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. The catalyst for the president's impeachment was the Starr Report, a September 1998 report prepared by Independent Counsel Ken Starr for the House Judiciary Committee.[1]
    On December 19, 1998, Clinton became the second American president to be impeached (the first being Andrew Johnson, who was impeached in 1868)[a] when the House formally adopted articles of impeachment and forwarded them to the United States Senate for adjudication. A trial in the Senate began in January 1999, with Chief Justice William Rehnquist presiding. On February 12, Clinton was acquitted on both counts as neither received the necessary two-thirds majority vote of the senators present for conviction and removal from office—in this instance 67. On Article One, 45 senators voted to convict while 55 voted for acquittal. On Article Two, 50 senators voted to convict while 50 voted for acquittal.[3] Clinton remained in office for the balance of his second term.
    Now we go to Trump and most of us should have him put in a sanitarium where he really belongs.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have to say "most of us Liberal Progressive Enlightened Democrats. Otherwise, you'd be lying.
     
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