Open season in Paris, for the first time since WW2

Absolutely false, I literally smoke weed every day, grew weed in 2006 to have money to build my mfg company and have been around "scientists" doing experiments on THC and CBD.

If you are going to continue to push such a statement, at least be honest and say it is the PCP that it is "laced with", since that was your above statement.

You are trying to build an argument based on:

"However, sometimes when marijuana is used it can cause fear, anxiety, panic or paranoia, which can result in an aggressive outburst. For most people, once the effects of the drug wear off, their behavior gradually improves."

That is such a riridulous overstretch and the article even states it above, saying alcohol and nicotein cause far more aggression than marijuana. So based on what you are saying, we should have 50 cases of people killing old ladies from "alcohol and nicotine aggression" than we have from marijuana.

Have you seen stories about that? Or is this guy and the court lying to pass off the Muslim guy? Come on....

THC and CBD do not have the effect you are speaking, please stop spreading false information.

 

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<Rule 2> any thing that can affect your brain chemistry can have as a result unexpected reactions <Rule 2>

 

This is certainly not the justice this woman and her family deserves. Because he chose to smoke marijuana...he's not guilty. Terrible. Truly shows no value for human life.

And why were cops standing outside her door for an hour as he beat her? Did I read that right?

 

From MARIJUANA? Seriously? Can we get a French ban list on the account of sheer incompetence. Marijuana doesn't impair thinking or cognition, and it most certainly doesn't promote killing tendencies.

 

I don't care what he was or wasn't doing...drugs, alcohol, whatever. He was a danger to others, obviously, and shouldn't get off with any bogus excuse that he isn't responsible. That is really tragic. The woman, and her family, deserve justice for this. The guy should be in jail for life or face the death penalty.

Poor woman....my heart goes out to her surviving friends and family. Her murderer on the other hand should rot in jail.

 

Like any mind altering substance, it affects different minds differently.

That being said, no one should be immune to the consequences of their actions. Unless someone forced this guy to get high, what he did is on him. France is insane.

 

It certainly impairs my thinking and cognition. Granted, theres no way I could hurt a fly if high, much less a human, being too dizzy and nautious to stand up and too fuzzy-brained to even talk after one inhalation (which is why I stick to good old alcohol). It effects everyone differently. I could easily see someone already prone to violence losing it and murdering folks while high.

 

So, this guy just gets let go to walk free in the streets....and buy more marijuana. I'm sure nothing bad will happen.

 

Alright, I'll slightly take it back and say if anyone is impulsive, they'll be driven by their impulses. But for me, marijuana is a chill factor. Anytime I've ever had marijuana or had it smoked near me, it produced a more quaint and calm feeling.

 

Maybe not in you..

 

BS

 

As an ex daily smoker I sit somewhere in the middle.

The reefer madness stuff is blatantly false and it does not help the government's cause at all.

On the other hand, I see too many cannabis advocates saying that inhaling burnt blant matter doesn't cause lung cancer. The biggest downsides for me were motivational (lack of enthusiasm to do things I know I should) and weight gain due to munchies (damn those munchies are hard to resist, and 2am Uber Eats is bloody expensive)

Also, it is addictive. Psychological or physical, the distinction is not as significant as many point out.

I would advise people to stick to once a week at most, or weekends only. A nice benefit of this is that the high is SO SO SO much better with a bit of seperation. Cannabis is a great drug if used in moderation, way better than alcohol, but if you're smashing it multiple times a day it can creep into the things you love.

 

Dude . . . Everything you consume can affect your brain chemistry. Everything.

 

Did you forget the words' psychotic state' in your rush to describe an anti-Semitic Armageddon all over France. Despite the melodrama posted above, this decision had absolutely nothing to do with justifying a hate crime against Jews and everything to do with a state's duty to establish mens rea to commit this crime. Jews get to use this same defense if they kill an atheist, or a Hindu in the middle of a drug induced psychotic mental breakdown.

 

At best, I would think you have a diminished capacity defense and I don't know if we can justifiably even allow that. Back in the 1980s, a couple of guys kidnapped a young female artist from her broken down car, raped and then murdered her. About the worst thing a human can do to another. They did not face the death penalty but got 2nd degree due to diminished capacity from smoking mj. That is not justice. Letting the guy off is flat out deranged. It is evil.

BTW: NRO just did a piece on a state with an even loonier law. If you commit a crime because you are insane, you are sent to the hospital rather than jail. If the hospital determines you are incurable, you are let go. So, incurably insane people can go quickly through the system, from mass murder, to court, to hospital, to release back to kill again. I'll try and link the article...

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/kentuckys-insane-civil-commitment-policy/

 

I just read that. That's ridiculous. I don't care where people like him are locked up so long as they are. Maybe the people who make these state laws should be hauled through the courts by the victims.

 

No I did not forget 'psychotic state' because there was none.
Had the person suffered from a psychotic state, the psychiatrist would have said just that. But there is none, it was said that he was in that state because of marijuana, which every person knows is pure BS.
Smoking weed will make you less aggressive, not hyper aggressive. In addition, taking drugs does not lessen your criminal responsibility, but enhances it, in every court on the globe.
So all this lead to the understanding that ever since Dreyfus trial, there was no such thing in the french justice system.
This is very serious stuff and I refuse to dismiss it like some people tend to do.

 

And have unexpected result depending on each individual...

 

I'm not defending the guy!
In fact he should be the poster child for bringing the guillotine back.
I'm only arguing the fact that thc can and does result in psychotic event with some people. I've seen it myself. In fact, since we legalized it, hospitals have reported many cases each weeks and this is with government controlled pot.
People also tends to forget that pot today has more thc content than the weak stuff we smoked in the 70's and 80's.

 

That's really dumb...

 

Agreed. See more below.

We are hearing of some people having psychotic episodes due to MJ use. Some things effect different people in different ways. Example: some are allergic to peanuts. They can kill people.
A larger question is do we license this?
There is a big difference between someone that bumps into pedestrian causing that pedestrian to fall in front of a bus and someone that pushes that pedestrian to kill them.
After the Hinkley debacle, they created a "guilty but insane" law knowing you cannot just allow whole classes of people to behave as if they are in an anarchy. But as noted above, still too much of this looniness abounds:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/kentuckys-insane-civil-commitment-policy/

You cannot have a functioning and just society like this.

 

I can't believe the number of people justifying murder. It's sickening.

 

Who's justifying anything?