Is Joe Biden the Worst Choice?

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  1. stratego

    stratego Well-Known Member

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    If Democrats nominate scandal ridden Joe Biden are they chosing another Hillary?
     
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    Pretty much — and they will likely be confused again why they lose to trump*.
     
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    Yes, but he's also the only one who's policies are even remotely sane.
     
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    Biden is the third best choice out of the current lineup. I'd still never vote for him though...
     
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    Bad Touch Biden. Please do, the memes are already hilarious. Will become even more so if he gets the nomination.
     
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    Only because Biden is an Establishment puppet shill of the GREED OBSESSED Wall Street Casino Bosses that CONTROL BOTH major parties.

    He would be no different to your IMPOTUS as fas as SCREWING over hardworking American goes.

    Warren or Yang are way better alternatives IMO.
     
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    What scandals "riddle" Biden?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Biden is the most likely to defeat Trump, Warren and Yang are both proposing radical programs that may sit them well with the more leftist fringe of the Dems but will do nothing but give people excuses to vote for Trump in the General. I agree with you that Americans want the programs that Warren and even Yang are proposing but we can do them either later in 2020 to 2024 or in 2024-2028. Proposing radical changes in this election might be seen as threatening our prosperity and that risks losing to Trump, and losing to Trump must NOT be allowed to happen. If Trump gets a second term he WILL follow the precepts of his mentor, Putin, and we WILL see mass arrests and the outright murder of prominent opposition journalists and other dissenters with the running of a handpicked successor and the arrest or murder of any serious opponent. Trump may even try to overthrow the 22nd Amendment. The only objective Dems can have in 2020 is to DEFEAT TRUMP, because if we don't I believe we will NEVER get another chance to defeat anyone who is not a Trumpist.

    Biden's major strength is that he offers a return to normalcy and we must not obstruct that in any way.
     
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    I understand where you are coming from but you are underestimating the opposition to the IMPOTUS. The military does NOT obey his orders and the intelligence community no longer gives him sensitive information. He is not TRUSTED even by members of the GOP in Congress. Therefore no one will obey his orders to commit the crimes you mentioned and if he tries to make them happen via turds like Miller or Giuliani anyone who finds out will blow the whistle.

    When it comes to the 2020 election it really does not matter who the Dems nominate because the battle is no longer between personalities but rather between the Wall Street Casino Banksters and We the People. Yes, they have the money and control both the media and the social media corporations which gives them immense power to DECEIVE We the People.

    OTOH We the People have the internet and we have the evidence of the Arab Spring and Hong Kong to demonstrate that the oppressed will no longer tolerate being exploited. Fortunately we still have the right to vote and to count our votes. This means that it will be up to Progressives to GOTV in 2020 on a massive scale. It can be done and it will be done because the progressive message RESONATES with We the People ACROSS the political divide. I know that the IMPOTUS supporters reject it but they are the minority. The moderate Independents and the suppressed minority voters are the key to winning in 2020.

    So Biden is NOT the answer IMO. He will be just more of the same oppression and exploitation of We the People. There needs to be a genuine Progressive who will fight for We the People in 2020. If the extremist rightwing could impose the IMPOTUS on the nation in 2016 there is no reason why the Progressives cannot elect a Sanders or a Warren in 2020.
     
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    Republicans will make up wild unfounded conspiracy theories about any candidate. Just like the ones they have made up about all Democratic candidates. Biden and Hillary are not the exception. But neither are any of the others.

    Nothing new. A handful of uninformed people will believe them, and people who care to inform themselves won't.

    Conspiracy theories are the only weapon Republicans have. Oh... and cheating.... They would have no hope whatsoever of getting elected absent of either.
     
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    :hiding: Dang Russians
     
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    “Scandal ridden”?. Haven’t you noticed Trump can’t support his claims?

    Biden falls into the ‘anyone but Trump’ category of candidates. Then again, I suppose they all do:) He definitely isn’t my first choice but I know my place in this equation.

    Let’s see, during his term a Trump business was dissolved for fraud and the Trump charity was dissolved for fraud. He’s spent 90-odd years of a Presidential salary—our money—playing golf at his courses. Meaning we’re paying him to golf. We’ve got a scandal ridden fraud in the WH. It’s highly unlikely any candidate could top Trump’s “creativity” for fraudulent behavior. He’s the poster child for, “How to scam your way through life with daddy’s money.”
     
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