Why do people on here only care when the shooter is WHITE?

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "White members"? What does melanin have to do with it? Are you suggesting their conduct is involuntarily genetic?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, what the hell do you think the info graphic proves exactly?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What you say about 'group think' would explain why black people may not want to participate in a thread about a black shooter, because he is one of their own. However this doesn't explain why white people wouldn't want to participate.
     
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    It provides a racial breakdown of homicide rates by states, allowing you a statistical context concerning which your fantasizing "Why do people only care when it is a WHITE killer?" is utterly devoid.

    All justifiable concern for the obscenely high rate of the US among civilized nations is not a racial matter, of course.

    Nevertheless, media does focus upon the more sensational, horrific mass killings than the overall astronomical numbers, e.g.:
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "White people"? Which ones? Who exactly are you referring to? I'm sorry, but I just don't follow. I do not think of myself or others, first and foremost as members of groups, rather than as individuals. What I see are individuals acting individually even though they, themselves, may think of themselves and/or others, first and foremost as members of groups rather than as individuals.

    The mention of the races of perpetrators and/or victims in a news report propagandizes and discredits that report in my eyes. I assume that the choice to report it, and not something else, was made for the purpose of promoting a racial narrative.
     
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    That’s what I would suspect. Or they find them to be an exception to the rule.
     
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    Misspoke there. Probably would have been better to say that I gain the, negative, attention of everyone in the thread already agreeing with one another. That is assuming I have a differing opinion of course.
    I tend not to post in “echo chambers”.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the motives of the shooters have mattered more to everyone, left, right and center, in the wake of various mass shootings, than race of the shooter. That and the issue of gun control.
     
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    Are you saying that the motive of the Jersey City shooter was different to the motive of the synagogue shooters?
     
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    Well?
     
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    No, just commenting in general. Every time one of these shootings occurs, we have people who look at why the shooter did it and whether it represents a wider threat of some kind, and we have people looking to use such shootings and shooters to score points somehow in a pointless online debate more directed at annoying others than achieving something positive.

    Now, it is remarkable how little attention the Black Hebrew Israelites have gotten. I suspect that this is not due to race so much as how small a group this represents, and therefore how small a threat they pose on the whole. They also don't have much of a history of violence.

    A 1999 FBI terrorism risk assessment report stated that "violent radical fringe members" of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement hold "beliefs [that] bear a striking resemblance to the Christian Identity theology practiced by many white supremacists."[70][71] It also wrote that "the overwhelming majority of [Black Hebrew Israelites] are unlikely to engage in violence."[70]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites

    There is more white supremacist violence and a lot more white supremacists around the country, making them much more of a threat and concern. So, that will be why white supremacist shooters get more attention.
     
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    Do you mean since this shooting, or in general?

    The synagogue shooters weren't members of any organisation, but that didn't stop people from paying attention to them.

    There is more white supremacist violence and a lot more white supremacists than what? BLACK supremacist violence and BLACK supremacists?
     
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    Both, I suppose. I hadn't heard much about them before, and certainly not that they were a registered hate group. But this is also the first act of violence from one of their members that I've heard about.

    True. They were associated with like-minded people who advocate and encourage such violence against Jews, but they probably couldn't be called members of an organization.

    Of course. In the US, at least.
     
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    Associated how?

    Not probably, DEFINITELY.

    That's the problem with your comparison - this guy wasn't a black supremacist.
     
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    Well?
     
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    Was everyone agreeing with eachother in this thread?
     
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    The white people on this forum!
     
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    How does it explain why the media barely talked about the Jersey City shooting which had FOUR deaths, but WIDELY talked about the Poway synagogue shooting which only had ONE SINGLE death?
     
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    You are clearly under the impression that the Jersey City shooting did NOT take place in a public place. You know nothing about this shooting. Next time try knowing a bit about something before commenting on it.
     
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    The anecdotal one? Yes.
     
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    I do not know what comparative analyses you reference. What studies do you cite?

    If you have decided some news stories merit more coverage and some less, that is your prerogative, of course.

    If you are only expressing your personal impression, all I can do is acknowledge that as being your opinion.
     
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    Exactly which ones? All white people? Because they're white? Sounds pretty racist to me.
     
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    You have replied to this same post three times now.
    I get it, you didn’t like my analysis — you can stop quoting me now...
     
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    Why do you need to allege that unspecified "people on here" only care when the shooter is White?

    Please be specific regarding whom you reference, and where they have ever indicated what you claim to be their sole concern.

    If you are unable to substantiate your opinion, that would clarify that it is merely your opinion.
     

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