WATCH LIVE: Two Dead, One Wounded After Shooting Reported at White Settlement Church

Prove god exists

 

Scissor Lift most likely. It’s what I’ve used to get up to the ceilings in churches and auditoriums when I needed a sample of ceiling.

 

If that were true, and it isn't, then I guess we have something I common eh?

 

Well I guess they’re stuck with scaffolding then. It can be configured to slopes, stairs, etc.

Maybe the churches you’ve been in are churches of modern day miracles and the bulbs don’t burn out.

They did in the churches I’ve been around. Always had plenty of construction worker members with skills and equipment to replace them.

 

Prove he doesn't. :shrug:

 

It's the West Freeway Church of Christ in White Settlement, TX.

 

I think he was just making a joke, I shared it with some of my friends they thought it was hilarious.

 

Then who stops the government when it becomes tyrannical? I suppose you just have to trust them? No thanks.

 

Then cease talking about the matter further. Work within the confines of what is reality, rather than complaining about how if only things were not as they presently are.

 

And such is simply not going to change, no matter how much complaining may be done relating to what the reality of the situation is. Accept it. Deal with it. Move on.

It is not intended to. It is intended to fail and be easily subverted, so its failures may be exploited and used as grounds to call for more firearm-related restrictions that are equally ineffective and designed to fail as well. It is the notion of planned obsolescence.

 

Nope. Your question about the firearm is totally not relevant to my comment you responded too.

 

There will be no change, if there are no complaints and no mockery of the failing US system.
You must accept the free speech. Deal with it. Move on.

 

I don't know if they still use long poles with a grabber on the end.

 

The firearm in question was acquired in an illegal fashion. It was modified in an illegal fashion. And it was used in an illegal fashion. Exactly what "failing" is being referred to on the part of yourself, when every bit of activity was already criminalized, but committed regardless?

Laws do not physically prevent crimes from being committed. They merely define something as being socially unacceptable, and proscribe the appropriate punishment for when such an activity is committed regardless.

 

Because the guy could have just bought a firearm legally from any private citizen in Texas.
We covered this already.

The gun violence is totally not socially acceptable. And the laws in the US do not reflect that one bit.

 

People die all the time. No matter how many restrictive laws the Left and RINOs pass, people are still going to die. Perhaps it would be best to pretend that this was a typical Dem Party generated night in Chicago -- with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation. For some odd reason no Democrat ever seems the least bit bothered when a nightly reaping of souls occurs through violence there. For some reason it only seems to irritate the hell out of them (or a great many of them anyway) when a victim has got the audacity to . . . fight . . . back.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/30/us/guns-legal-texas-church/index.html
Armed parishioners saved 'untold number of lives.' This law made it legal to have guns in church
Hollie Silverman
By Hollie Silverman, CNN
Updated 2:32 AM ET, Mon December 30, 2019

(CNN) A shooter at a church in White Settlement, Texas, was taken down by parishioners with guns seconds after he began firing Sunday.
Those parishioners, who were also volunteer members of the church's security team, are able to carry guns into church due to a law passed by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott in response to another deadly church shooting that took the lives of 26 people in 2017.

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick referred to the law during a Sunday night press conference, saying that it was passed following the deadly shooting at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs. It took effect in September, Patrick said.

Senate Bill 535 took effect in September and clarifies possession of firearms at places of worship. The bill allows licensed handgun owners to legally carry their weapons in churches, synagogues and other houses of worship.

"We have learned many times over that there is no such thing as a gun-free zone. Those with evil intentions will violate the law and carry out their heinous acts no matter what," state Sen. Donna Campbell, co-sponsor of the bill, said in a statement when the bill was passed in September. "It makes no sense to disarm the good guys and leave law-abiding citizens defenseless where violent offenders break the law to do great harm."

Lt. Gov. Patrick also mentioned a second law that was recently passed that waives the fees charged to private institutions that have their own security teams.

He lauded the heroic actions of those volunteer security members. "They were well trained, well trained. The heroism today is unparalleled. This team responded quickly and within six seconds the shooting was over," Patrick said. "Two of the parishioners who are volunteers on the security force drew their weapons and took out the killer immediately saving untold number of lives."

CNN's Faith Karimi and Christina Maxouris contributed to this report.

 

And the relevance of such a hypothetical is what, precisely? Do you wish to see the last known legal owner of the firearm tracked down and prosecuted for selling the firearm?

Such is why using a firearm for the purpose of causing harm to others is already illegal.

Is it legal to shoot someone outside of a situation of self defense?

 

Chicago had a 10% drop in homicides and robberies and a 19% increase of guns recovery (9,300). And that's where to problem is... guns are still being shipped in by the 1000's because the gun laws in the US are a joke.

 

That would be something, wouldn't it? When a private citizen is made responsible for aiding a shooter by selling guns to him.

Not seeing how that is reflecting that gun violence is socially not acceptable. Guns are widely sold and people carry them with them all the time. It's like giving candy to a small child, unwrap it, and demand it may only look at it.... to than shrug when "the law" doesn't work. And you do shrug it off when a person is shot to pieces as if it's a child taking a bite from the unwrapped candy.

The laws still do not reflect that gun violence is socially not acceptable.

 

There were five. Tactically spaced out for max protection with so few parishioners having their guns.

 

Every country “has guns”. Thus there is no such thing as a gun free zone. It is a left wing fantasy

 

Prior to the McDonald decision overturning the handgun prohibition in the city of Chicago, the number of homicides committed with illegally acquired and possessed handguns was nearly one hundred percent. The prohibition did absolutely no good in saving so much as even a single life.

According to the findings by the ATF, such is not actually the case.

https://www.atf.gov/file/119286/download

The majority of firearms came from the state of Illinois, rather than any other outside state. Thirty three percent of all firearms found in the possession of criminals were originally sold within the state of Illinois to begin with.

 

More and more people are packing to church. The win at the Church of Christ in White Settlement resonates for all churches in the unsaid message that if you're coming to our church to shoot us up you may not get the results you were hoping for.

 

Even if such were ultimately attempted, what ultimate good would come from such to justify such an endeavor?

The laws in the united states are quite clear on the matter. One cannot use a firearm for the purpose of committing harm to another for any reason. They may not legally discharge a firearm in either a manner or location that puts others at the risk of harm as a result. It is no different than the laws relating to motor vehicles and their legal use.

How do they not? Explain such.