WATCH LIVE: Two Dead, One Wounded After Shooting Reported at White Settlement Church

Nope, they just use different weaponry.

https://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/violent-crime-us-abroad/

 

Oh sure, any weapon you want.

 

Again, I am referring to a complete gun confiscation, individuals, I know. As far as inheriting, I did it in NJ, no problems.

 

I already provided a link to the limits. It is not unlimited.

 

Not unlimited, however, does not mean next to nonexistent. From a linguistical standpoint, the phrase "not unlimited" simply means it is nearly unlimited in terms of scope.

 

Here you go. I am sure it is different by state.

https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/the-second-amendment-and-the-right-to-bear-arms.html

 

I just provided a legal link to limits of the 2nd amendment.

 

Any firearm that is presently legal for ownership and available on the private market.

 

Go argue with the lawyers with that post.

 

Yes whatever is legal per state, I agree100%. That does mean any weapon.

 

The shot heard around the world.

 

Yeah... like children shooting themselves.
could it be... lack of gun control?

 

Then name what firearms currently available for sale on the private market, the Heller ruling specifies do not have any constitutional protections.

Do note the united state supreme court clarified in the Caetano ruling that the "dangerous and unusual" provision is supposed to be read simultaneously, rather than merely dangerous or unusual.

Do note the united state supreme court went further in Caetano and specified that a firearm cannot be considered unusual, simply because it is not of a type or configuration that existed at the time of the ratification of the united states constitution by the first congress.

 

Pray tell which lawyers? The ones who argued in the Heller case how the second amendment applied only to muskets and not any modern firearms?

 

Because Brazil, Mexico, South Africa all got more or less the same poverty and corruption problems. Hence we need to compare the US to similar countries and so western nations. Otherwise it's just appels - oranges.

You could also look at how well the US does compared to Yemen.
Pat yourself on the back of doing a better job than a fail state.
Up to you.

 

We're talking about this current situation.

 

Your source:

Another difference between the US and other relatively safe developed nations is that the US has a much higher homicide rate than similarly “safe” countries. 14,827 people were murdered in the US last year. This is way down from the 24,526 US murders in 1993, yet still leaves the US at 4.8 murders per 100,000 citizens. In comparison, Japan has .4 murders per 100,000 residents. Germany has .8, Australia 1, France 1.1, and Britain–who has recently garnered media attention for being the most dangerous wealthy European nation– has 1.2.


You're 4 times more likely to be killed in the US compared to the most dangerous European nation.
And you think you debunked my claim that it aint so? Good lord.... lol

 

The preparation for a shooting at that church was beautifully executed. Proper training and discipline. That is what needs to be done in schools.

 

Only if that religion is Islam.

 

And a total collapse of society which we are already witnessing as religion in the U.S. fades away.

 

But what does that weigh? How long could an American guerilla fighting man stay in the field carrying that?

 

"White Settlement, TX – The heroic churchgoer who fatally shot the active shooter who was gunning down parishioners inside a Texas church on Sunday is a firearms instructor, a former law enforcement officer, and a great-grandfather.

West Freeway Church of Christ member and volunteer security team member Jack Wilson ended the gunman’s attack within six seconds.

“The events at West Freeway Church of Christ put me in a position that I would hope no one would have to be in, but evil exists and I had to take out an active shooter in church,” Wilson wrote in a Facebook post late Sunday night.

“The events at West Freeway Church of Christ put me in a position that I would hope no one would have to be in, but evil exists and I had to take out an active shooter in church,” Wilson wrote in a Facebook post late Sunday night.

“I’m thankful to GOD that I have been blessed with the ability and desire to serve him in the role of head of security at the church. I am very sad in the loss of two dear friends and brothers in CHRIST, but evil does exist in this world and I and other members are not going to allow evil to succeed,” he wrote. “Please pray for all the members and their families in this time. Thank you for your prayers and understanding.”

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said that Wilson made it a point to prepare himself and others to handle potentially deadly confrontations.

“He was a reserve deputy and had significant training, had his own shooting range, had taught other people how to shoot, had taught many people in this church how to be prepared,” Paxton said during a press conference, according to KDVR.

“He’s not just responsible for his actions, which ultimately saved the lives of maybe hundreds of people, but he’s also responsible for training hundreds in that church,” the attorney general noted.

According to Paxton, Wilson was the only individual who actually returned fire during the attack.

He fired just once, dropping the gunman instantly.

“I don’t consider myself a hero at all,” Wilson told WFAA. “I did what I was trained to do.”

Witnesses said that the gunman, later identified as 43-year-old repeat offender Keith Thomas Kinnunen, was wearing a fake beard as part of an apparent disguise when he showed up at the church on Sunday morning, KXAS reported.

Members of the church’s volunteer security team took note of Kinnunen, who they believed was “acting suspiciously,” church minister Jack Cummings told The New York Times.

"He shot Richard, because Richard and I were both drawing our weapons at the same time," Wilson told WFAA. "Then he shot Richard and then he shot Tony Wallace."

Frantic parishioners jumped to their feet as they scrambled for cover, creating barriers between Wilson and the gunman.

But the former deputy saw his opportunity about a half-second later.

"The only clear shot I had was his head because I still had people in the pews that were not all the way down…that was my one shot,” he told KXAS. “When I teach people, I teach them not to shoot the head unless that's all you have…If that's the only shot you've got, then that's the shot you take."

He killed the gunman with a single round, WFFA reported.

“I don’t feel like I killed a human. I killed an evil,” Wilson said of killing the man who murdered Wallace and White. “That’s how I’m coping with the situation.”

Wallace’s daughter, Tiffany Wallace, said she was just feet away from her father when he was killed.

The team of parishioners, all of whom are licensed to carry firearms, train with their weapons frequently, according to the minister.

Footage from the church’s livestream of the service showed the suspect as he made his way out of the pew to receive communion, WFAA reported.

He walked away briefly before he turned back towards 64-year-old church deacon Anton “Tony” Wallace, who just served him communion.

Kinnunen appeared to speak to Wallace for a moment, then suddenly pulled out a shotgun, the video showed.

Richard White, 76, was seated nearby, but immediately rose to his feet and reached back towards his waistband.

But before he could fire his weapon, Kinnunen opened fire.

The Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) also described Wilson’s actions as “heroic,” according to USA Today.

“It cannot be overstated how important it is that everyone recognize what took place here today,” DPS Regional Director Jeoff Williams said during a press conference on Sunday. “The citizens who were inside that church undoubtedly saved 242 other parishioners.”

The church’s senior minister, Britt Farmer, said he appreciates the fact that he lives in a country where people have the right to defend themselves and others.

“We lost two great men today,” Farmer said, according to The New York Times. “It could have been a lot worse. I’m thankful that our government has allowed us the opportunity to protect ourselves.”

A new law allowing licensed firearms owners to carry weapons in places of worship went into effect in Texas in September.

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I am glad that the man who fired the shot was a former LEO and that the whole security team had regular training.

This wasn't just "a good guy with a gun", it was a man who's had a lot of firearms training, as well as law enforcement training.

That's how it should be. Not just every guy with a gun, but people with guns who've had and continue to have training and experience.

I am glad this church was properly prepared for what happened(as much as you can be) and that the quick actions of this man saved lives. I hope more churches and other institutions follow suit. Train the people you're going to arm. Everyone will be better off for it.

 

Comparing a heterogeneous society to homogeneous white/Asian societies is cheating and you know it.


Get back to us when those countries are no longer homogeneous. They are losing their homogeneity at the fastest rate of any countries in human history (except for Japan which will continue to be safe). I have no doubt that European homicide rates will rival ours soon enough.... even if they have to use knives instead of guns.

Funny you didn't mention the Swiss..... a homogeneous white society with gun laws as lax as ours. I wonder why that is?

 

In you figure, it says "Young African Americans are far more likely to be victims of tun homocide than young people of other races" What it fails to mention is that African Americans are far more likely to commit homicide than other races.