Iranian Militia Leader Leading Iraq U.S. Embassy Raid Listed as Obama White House Guest

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  1. grapeape

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    Great Post Polly. Well thought out !
     
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    Yeah, one behind a paywall, and the other 3, FAUX, the Washington Slimes, and Pompasshole, all known Tramp liars.
     
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    From CNN

    Facts First: This is roughly true. As part of a settlement, Obama transferred $1.7 billion in cash to Iran in 2016. The administration also used the money to pressure Iran to release several American prisoners.


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/21/politics/trump-twitter-iran-fact-check/index.html
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    4 sources, citing the White House guest list.

    Once again-why would it surprise you that Obama made this guy a guest?


    The Iraqi president's office said their delegation to Washington this week included Trade Minister Khairallah Babiker, Transportation Minister Hadi Farhan al-Amiri, National Security Adviser Falih al-Fayad, and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, among other officials.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/obama_meets_maliki_in_washington/24419769.html
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. It was their money that was “frozen”
    2. As part of the Iran deal, the US released the portion that they held (small)
    3. The US allowed other countries to release the money they had
    4. Most of the “value” was in assets, not raw cash
    5. Iran signed the US/Iran nuclear deal that allowed the US to inspect and have access to Iran nuclear programs

    We don’t know what they have now....Thanks Donald ;)
     
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    So CNN’s comment about transferring $1.5 billion in cash is bogus?

    First you say Obama didn’t give them anything, then you admit he did and defend it.

    I’m afraid to think what your response to my post will be.
     
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    i think he is fixin' to invade iran ever since they shot down an American drone, lindsey said President Trump will be tougher than obama on threats.

     
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    When Obama was in the White House he wasn’t an ally!!
     
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    Yesterday's freedom fighter is tomorrow's taliban leader. Yes, we kind of warned the left of that during Operation Arab Spring. One of the most catastrophic failures in US Foreign Policy since WMD in Iraq.
     
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    In other words...orange man bad....TDS.....whaaaaaaa!!
     
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    NO. I said it was only a small portion of what was being held by all countries.

    I said Obama didn’t “give them” anything. It was theirs and was part of the deal to get access to their nuclear program. Which was working until Orangezilla had to undo anything “Obama”, and now you have a new war forming in the country. This one is solely on the shoulders of Orangzilla. This is his war now.
     
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    He absolutely was. He was leading the war against ISIS and ISIL in Iran. It’s just a simple fact
     
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    Friends become foes when policy changes doesnt meet their expectation. Change the policy, change the minds....hmmm, who would have changed the policy...hmmm, I wonder who that could be........Oh yeah, Orangezilla changed that policy, and so now HE created the mess. But its easier to blame Obama than to take responsibility for the mess he himself created. Hell, Trump wont have to do much work on that front, his minions and supporters will do that for him, because as we all know his is the all knowing, all seeing, omnipotent being who can do no wrong.

    Trump changed the policy, Thur HE changed the minds. No way around that one.
     
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    it was their money, not ours. He didn't "give" them anything. Their money was released as part of the Iran deal, which allowed us to inspect their facilities. Trump had to go and **** that up, and now this happened.
     
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    The sooner we would remove this festering Iranian threat to humanity, the better! I've been saying that since 1979 when the insane, Islamo-Nazi priesthood took over total control of that country....

    It's even far more necessary now that they've "got the centrifuges spinning", 24/7....

    But I hope (HOPE) that we don't 'invade' another Islamo-pesthole! That was the huge mistake we made in Iraq AND Afghanistan. We don't need or want to 'invade' Iran, per se! All we need to do is obliterate every military target there, for a start -- USING AIR POWER ONLY! We don't need or want to "put boots on the ground" in places like that.
     
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    You are right, rahl... Obama 'unfroze' their money and rushed a big chunk of it to them in cash, on pallets, flown into Iran on American planes.

    In return, Obama/Kerry got an "agreement" that completely FORBADE inspection for nuclear weapons and materiel in any place in Iran that the Iranians unilaterally declared to be a "military" site. :spin:

    It's strange how nothing about that ever strikes any of our Loonie-Tunes, hyperliberal Democrats as bizarre, one-sided, and indefensibly STOOPID.... :roflol:
     
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    Hah, radical jihad would have attacked the US mainland and its citizens regardless of who is president. The difference lies in whether we recognize them as enemy combatants, or if we naively believe that putting US forces within the region would affect some kind of 'democratic regime'. LMAO, let me barf.
     
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    no it didn't.

    well, it is false for one thing. For another, what do we have now? Trump moronically pulled out of the deal. We have no ability to inspect ANYTHING now.
     
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    Ah, rahl... for years now you simply deny that something is real, or unreal, and convinced of your 'opinion', you go no further, and won't even discuss it intelligently! No wonder you never seem to look beyond blind allegiance to the hyperliberal Democrat Party's line.

    It is a FACT that Iran, through its own empowered spokesmen, has stated flatly that there absolutely can NOT be ANY inspection whatsoever, by anyone or organization, of any place in Iran that Iran unilaterally declares to be a MILITARY SITE. Now, rahl, just where the hell do you THINK the Islamo-Nazis would be conducting R & D for nuclear weapons?! Right out in the open where anybody could see it?!

    With tongue-in-cheek, I could suggest that one sure-fire way we could 'inspect' anything of interest, at anyplace in Iran, would be to sift through the rubble and residue that remains AFTER we bomb the living hell out of it!
     
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    So you think the Trump administrations policies have nothing to do with whats happening then, but blame Obama for not having a crystal ball to recognizing that Trumps policies might cause even more chaos in the Middle East. OK, got it
     
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    Yeah?

    And, so what?

    Have any of our people been killed?
     
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    That's not what I said at all, so let's try paying attention: The Arab Spring was a folly, from the start. It's very initiative, it's very idea was borne out of the same folly as WMD in Iraq, and had the same result. In fact, it deteriorated even faster. By 2014, Obama had lost the middle east. It led him to call the entire stupid idea "the worst mistake of his presidency". And that's an understatement of the century.

    Trump inherited that mess, and he had enjoyed substantial success in destroying ISIS, but now Iran is apparently antagonizing US forces in Iraq. The solution isn't necessarily to stand tall in Iraq, but to recognize that the US cannot, under any administration build a 'democratic' Middle East.

    Our only choices are two-fold: Either to seize the Middle East ourselves, and annihilate all groups against the United States, or to end this 'Democratic Middle east' charade, and leave it to its own devices.
     
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    NOT TRUE!
    The IAEA inspectors are charged with ensuring that no potential nuclear fuel — highly enriched uranium and plutonium are the two commonly used sources — is being diverted to a covert nuclear weapons program. Under something called the Additional Protocol, which Iran accepted as part of the JCPOA, inspectors can request access to undeclared sites, including military sites
     
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    So he's Obama's pal.

    And no US forces have been killed-because Trump knows how to back them up.

    The anti-Benghazi.
     
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