WATCH LIVE: Two Dead, One Wounded After Shooting Reported at White Settlement Church

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Video Emerges of Biden Ripping Texas Church Gun Law That Just Helped Stop a Shooter in 6 Seconds

    "Here’s what he said about the Texas church gun law after it was signed by Governor Greg Abbott:

    “Dealing with firearms, it is irrational, with all due respect to the governor of Texas, irrational what they are doing. On the very day you see a mass shooting … and we’re talking about loosening access to have guns, to be able to take them into places of worship, it’s just absolutely irrational. It’s totally irrational.”"
    https://thepoliticalinsider.com/vid...that-just-helped-stop-a-shooter-in-6-seconds/

    Looked pretty rational to me Joe
     
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    Julian Castro

    "Presidential candidate Julián Castro stated during the "2020 Presidential Gun Safety Forum" that the idea of a good guy with a gun being a solution to shootings has been "shattered.""
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3783368/posts

    Shattered?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_people

    As elsewhere in Western Europe, immigration to Switzerland has increased dramatically since the 1960s, so that a large proportion of the resident population of Switzerland are now not descended or only partially descended from the core ethno-linguistic groups listed above. As of 2011, 37% of total resident population of Switzerland had immigrant background.

    And so I am back.
     
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    Claiming that Mexicans and Brazilians are as rich as Americans, all in order to try to explain the gun violence.
    Hilarious. Thanks for playing. You lost.
     
  5. notme

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    Russia is also very much more corrupt and so rule of law fails that far more often. Hence gun laws fail far more often. That's nothing new to you. But I guess you're ignoring it all out of pure convenience for your personal agenda.

    Hence we compare western nations who are alike with each other. And that shows the US being at the total bottom of the list. Their gun laws are lousy compared to other western countries.
     
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    It won't. But I don't recall people being able to make a mass killing with a knife.
    It's also much safer for the cops... since they bring their gun to a knife fight.
     
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    How we po boys learned to shotgun: Turn you back to the field. 1st guy throws crumpled Jax can into the sky over the field. 2nd guy says go. You about face and take the Jax can out of the sky.
     
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    The united states is not rich. In fact it is quite poor, and invested heavily in deficit spending.

    How is such different from the united states, where rule of law also fails and is ignored quite frequently?
     
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367

    "An attack by knife-wielding men at a railway station in Kunming in south-west China has left at least 29 dead, the state news agency Xinhua says."

    Twenty nine individual stabbed to death in a single attack, committed in a very short amount of time. Most mass shootings in the united states do not even get into that range in terms of body count.
     
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    Did you check out the demographics of the immigrants? Mostly European. Once again a very very white 1st world population with very very lax gun laws and an absurdly low murder rate and you attempt to compare it to a country that is only 60% white. Not a fair comparison. Go to the white state of South Dakota (and its lax gun laws) and you get a homicide rate of 1.4.... comparable to European homicide rates.

    The problem is OBVIOUSLY and DEMONSTRABLY not related to restrictive gun laws.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Switzerland
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    Earns about the most money on the planet. And here you are trolling around it's poor as hell. lol
    You lost the argument.

    I just explained it.
     
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    Ah...
    Your average shooting doesn't kill as many as a probably the biggest knife attack on the planet committed by at least 4 people. A fair comparison would be average shooting vs average knife attack. Your comparison is totally flawed to suit your agenda.
     
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    I'm not going to discuss this when your argument contains that black people kill more because of their skin color.
    That's just so incredible racist and shows how pathetically desperate you are.
    You really went overboard and lost this argument big time.
     
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    I dunno about skin color, but the lack of fathers in that demographic and a culture that glorifies violence might be a place to start looking for answers. Heck, even SupaBadBrotha - and whatever happened to him, anyway? Haven't seen him in awhile - as much as we butted heads, that was one of the few things we agreed on.
     
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    He and "Cigar" brought useful perspectives to PF. As much as I too disagreed with them, I miss them both.
     
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    There is a clear correlation between poverty and crime in general. And white people in the US made sure that black people were kicked to the bottom of the social economic ladder. It was legal to do so till around 1965. Economic mobility to step up that ladder is really poor in the US. In general, the black population in the US is mostly rather poor. These are facts you can look up yourself if you're interested. Hence it's an ill white supremacist joke that black people are more violent because of their black culture or just being black. I aint playing some nazi troll game. They already lost the argument. Waste of time.
     
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    The problem is that the lack of a two-parent household is one of the MAJOR contributing factors to poverty - and guess what demographic is facing that problem the most? You're putting the cart before the horse here.

    And as far as culture, my niece put it best when she told us about a kid who asked her out with his pants sagging: "I wanna date someone who gets his fashion tips from Wall Street, not Prison!" And neither she nor I are White.

    And I'll say it again: If SupaBad was saying it's an issue - and he most assuredly is Black (or sure as hell pulled off that joke successfully for years if he wasn't) - I can't see how you'd disagree.
     
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    Um... you are the one advocating for oppressing me. You are the one who wants to take away my rights to keep and bear arms. I want you to realize you are going to need an army to do that.... an army that is not composed of people with my worldview.

    I am not worried about gun violence because it does not affect me in any way. All of the people I know live in safe communities like I do. Most everybody I know owns guns. Most everybody I know will fight for the preservation of our rights to keep arms. When you speak of controlling the gun violence epidemic, you are not speaking to my community.... you are speaking to communities that are having a problem with gun violence. Solving THEIR problem does not require you to OPPRESS me or to destroy our Constitution. Quit pretending it does.
     
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    lol wut?
    Americans who want more gun control are in the majority. And that side is getting bigger as well.
    Just a matter of time that there is going to be more gun regulations around.
    You aware that cops kill a lot of people in the US who do illegal things?

    I do not care about your alleged personal experience.
     
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    March 28, 2014: 7 injured, with 2 (a woman and four year old boy) seriously injured. The attack occurred on the outskirts of Qinzhou city, in the Guangxi province.

    March 27, 2014: 6 were stabbed to death and 7 injured over a property dispute in Beijing.

    March 14, 2014: Knife attack in Changsha market leaves 6 dead.

    March 1, 2014: 33 people killed and 143 wounded by a group of knife wielding men at the Kunming Railway Station in Yunnan province.

    August 26, 2013: 4 dead and 11 injured by a single attacker along Chengdu’s Caojia Alley.

    August 20, 2013: 3 killed and at least 12 injured in a knife attack on a bus in the central Henan province.

    July 31, 2013: 11 were injured in a knife attack on a bus in Hong Kong.

    July 29 2013: 3 people stabbed to death, 5 injured in Shenzhen, in the Guangdong province. Killer randomly attacked people people along the line the side of a road.

    July 26, 2013: 5 people killed and 3 wounded in a knife attack in Luohe city in Henan province. After first stabbing people in the village the attack continued in a furniture shop where two more people were killed.

    July 22, 2013: Knife attack in a store in Beijing’s Xicheng district leaves 1 dead, 3 wounded.

    July 19, 2013: A knife wielding man killed two people at a shopping mall in downtown Beijing. This was probably reported because one of the two murder victims was an American.

    May 22 2013: 7 injured (six primary school students and a woman) with a cleaver at a primary school in the Maoming city government in the southern province of Guangdong.

    December 14, 2012: Stabbed 23 children and an elderly woman at the village’s primary school as children were arriving for classes

    August 2, 2012: Teenager killed 9 and wounded 4 in Yongling town.

    January 20, 2012: Seven people were injured, two seriously, in a knife attack Thursday in the city of Zhongshan in south China’s Guangdong Province.

    September 14, 2011: 6 killed (two young girls and four adults) near a nursery in Gongyi.

    August 30, 2011: 8 children injured at a child-care centre in Minhang District, Shanghai.

    August 4, 2010: 4 killed (3 children and one teacher) and about 20 other children wounded at a kindergarten in Zibo, Shandong province.

    May 12, 2010: Seven children and two adults were killed and 11 other persons wounded with a cleaver at a kindergarten in Hanzhong, Shaanxi.

    April 30, 2010: 28 students, 2 teachers, and one security guard were wounded in a knife attack in a Jiangsu province kindergarten.

    April 29, 2010: 16 students and a teacher were wounded at an elementary school in southern Guangdong province.

    March 31, 2010: “A man killed a young woman and injured two other people in a knife attack at a university campus in southwest China’s Sichuan Province, officials said Wednesday.”

    March 23, 2010: 9 children murdered with a knife at an elementary school in Nanpign, Fujian province.
    https://crimeresearch.org/2014/04/a-note-on-mass-victim-knife-attacks/
     
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    sure... so go post things 6 to 10 years old. lol
    You know very well that it won't compare well to all the mass shootings in the US of 1 year.
    What a nonsense.
     
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    People got killed because they were praying.
    You call it "rational"?

    /facepalm
     
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    You said you never heard of mass murder by knife, that was top of a simple search I could post pages. You missed the London Bridge attack 2017?
     
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    And it went right over you head :wall: Biden wasn't talking about praying was he?
     

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