Trump ordered US drone strike that killed Iran general Qassem Suleimani

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  1. AFM

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    And none of this would have happened if Obama had not given Iraq away. Iraq could have been the next South Korea.
     
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    Maybe "Harsh Revenge " will be to insure Trumps re-election
     
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    Yes, the reasons you give being the reasons the US will soon be out. In addition they see Trump's actions having the fall out of increasing Iran's influence in the region. A bit of an own goal. That is what I was hearing last night.

    It appears to have been a massive blunder for the US. Possibly the only alternative to it getting out of the region would be all out war....Trump could be mad enough I think.
     
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    and none of this would have happened had not the President of the United States had such a massive ego he wanted to destroy his predecessors legacy.
     
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    Just in case you don't understand White vernacular, here it is in Black vernacular.

    From 1:30 to 2:30 is the pertinent part you don't "seem" to grasp.

     
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    Taking out a car with a Drone is only capable today by the USA.
     
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    You shouldn’t speak so negatively about Obama.
     
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    And the mullahs running Iran are now keenly aware of that.
     
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    His predecessor's legacy was destroying America.

    Trump is our Savior.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is the reason though that you are playing chicken with Iran, killing people and possibly about to wage a war which will go on forever and no doubt kill millions - all because Trump wanted to destroy Obama's legacy. Where is the sanity or any level of maturity in the office of President of the United States. Wars are often started for the most ridiculous of reasons but I think this one takes the biscuit.
     
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    Nice rant. What war has been started ???
     
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    When he boasted about doing it I don't recall him mentioning names.
     
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    It had nothing to do with Iraq - This is Syria we are talking about. Arming and supporting the proxy army in Syria was a global effort. It is the arms and support for Al Qaeda/ISIS that was responsible for what happened. Not the lack of some troops in Iraq - a completely separate country. .. and if the troops were in Syria - which side would they be fighting on ?

    Your claim is abject nonsense... go read previous post as I demonstrate why your claim is nonsense.
     
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    Fair point. He wasn't President at the time he was recorded boasting about grabbing women by their sexual organs.
     
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    What has this video got to do with anything?
     
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    The moment the US left the JCPOA and started inflicting sanctions on Iran, what some are now calling a blockade was when the US started its war.

    My 'rant' was simply correcting your diversion. The reason for the current crises in the ME which will either result in the US leaving with its tail between its legs or total war is your Presidents ego and desire to destroy Obama's legacy. To think lives are being lost all because the US has a President with a massive ego - and seemingly many hangers on with a similar problem. That is how history, if we have any more history will see this. sad.
     
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    And America can take its objections about Iran to the UN, and declare
    it will take action. Beginning with the UN deal to disarm Hezbollah -
    which now has about 140,000 missiles, mostly delivered by Iran right
    under the noses of UN inspectors.
    Iran shows what a farce the UN is.
     
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    I think Iran should get the bomb. So too should every Sunni country in
    the Middle East which hates and fears Iran. Let God sort 'em out.
     
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    What have you won? Nothing. Simply committed murder. Otherwise, look at the geopolitical map in the countries which Iran and the US have been competing for influence.

    In the 1980s, the US and Israel sought to install a puppet philangist regime in Lebanon. After the marine barracks were bombed, killing more than a couple of hundred US marines, Reagan ordered US troops out of Lebanon. And invaded Grenada! The Israelis, in the meantime, were kicked out of southern Lebanon by Hezbollah. Later, in 2006, with Hezbollah amassing an arsenal of around 30,000 (mostly crude rockets), Israel attacked Lebanon vowing to disarm Hezbollah. Today, Hezbollah's arsenal of 150,000 missiles and rockets include weapons that can decimate anywhere of Hezbollah's choosing in Israel. Politically, despite constant efforts by the US and the EU, spearheaded by billions spent by the Saudis, to isolate and delegitimize Hezbollah politically within Lebanon, the government of Lebanon is supported by Hezbollah and the president of Lebanon (a Christian) is an ally of Hezbollah.

    In Iraq, the US invaded the country as part of a set of countries to be attacked and invaded, culminating with taking out the big prize, namely Iran, with the US attempting to encircle Iran from both sides of its borders in the east through Afghanistan and west through Iraq. Lets just say that neither of those countries have proven secure bases for the Americans and, if anything, Iran now has influence in two countries which used to be ruled by regimes hostile to Iran.

    In Syria, notwithstanding the mantra "Assad must go", Iran came to Assad's rescue and later with help from the Russians, defeated attempts to unseat his government. In the meantime, while the US is working with the Israelis to dislodge Iran from Syria, Iran's bases in Syria are actually more secure and fortified than ever before. There are right now tens of thousands of forces under the direction of the Quds force in Syria, including thousands right across the Golan and Israel. Hundreds of air strikes by Israel has accomplished zilch to dislodge these forces which have, in fact, grown in number and power.

    In Yemen, the US backed a Saudi coalition's invasion of that country and despite all the death and suffering, the Houthis still control Sana and their position in Yemen is secure.

    In the Persian Gulf, after the attack against the Saudi oil installations, the US had to even relocate the headquarters of its central command outside the region to the US itself! Your forces there are virtually hostages, presenting targets as opposed to being any real threat to Iran.

    As for killing General Soleimani, you again get the prize for committing the greater number of murders (this one will be evened up and then some shortly). But regardless, geopolitically, while only a few weeks ago Iran was facing a US/Saudi orchestrated attempt to divert protests in that country against Iran, today the streets of Iraq are filled with hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who are chanting death to America and mourning the death of General Soleimani and Abu Mahdi Muhandis. The Iraqi government, in the meantime, has come out publicly denouncing the US despite US troops and presence inside Iraq.

    And I won't even talk about ISIS, a group which was largely an American creation meant to cause problems for Iran, which the US decided to join fighting against when it became obvious ISIS was being defeated and the US wanted an excuse to get back into Iraq and have some presence in Syria.

    Honestly, who is 'pretending to be winning"??
     
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    No way, dude, the Iranians are way technically advanced. Their scientists built a space shuttle n' stuff.

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    Well, their male scientists did. Female Iranians can put a sack over their heads and keep their mouths shut if they know what's good for them.
     
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    It's "equitable" in a huge way. All those proxy wars with Yemen,
    Lebanon, Irag and Syria - the attacks on oil refineries, Iranian
    dissidents, mines in the gulf, drone attacks, missiles into Israel
    etc --- getting the Number One Guy (other than Supreme Leader)
    is a gift that keeps on giving.
     
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    And don't they hang gays from construction cranes?
     
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    Yes Poohbear you have no respect for life - wanting to kill Assange as well. You are wrong though about what you think of other Muslims countries. No you are on your own promoting Genocide. I am pretty sure that is against forum rules but it is just you further emphasising your lack of respect for life and desire to destroy it.
     
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    The record speaks for itself. AUMF, GWOT, USAPA and decades of overthrowing duly elected governments.
     
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    So you have nothing to substantiate your claim. Typical.
     

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