Trump, Pence, Pompeo Lied About Soleimani

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that more than "white christian soldiers" serve in our military right? They include people from all walks of life? Including Muslims, Jewish, Hindu and brown, black, and yellow? Playing the card you just played is about as stupid as it gets. Learn to make better arguments.
     
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    A general of a murderous militia is not a Head of State. Unless of course that state funds all the radical Islamic terrorism. Speaking of rationalization and sh*t for brains.
     
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    Eadora. Please understand
    SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ WERE DRIVEN BY THE "PEACE MOVEMENT."
    Ever see those placards, "Sanctions, not war" ??
    Yes, Western governments were pushed to use sanctions against Iraq at the
    behest of the "peace movement." Most governments instinctively knew they
    would backfire.
    At the start of the Vietnam war, Hanoi was just a backward Communist state.
    At the end of that stage of the war, 1975, it had an empire, having conquered
    Sth Viet, Laos and Cambodia (and was testing Thailand) It had the ability to
    shoot down B52 bombers and it had an airforce of Soviet MIG jets.
    I am sorry, with just this example - America didn't bomb Nth Vietnam to the
    stone age.
    However... Marxism came to Indo China --- and THAT shoved these nations
    back to the stone age. For instance, South Vietnam became like North Korea
    instead of South Korea like everybody once thought. And then the starvations
    began.
     
  4. Tim15856

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    ISIS may have been an asset to Obama, but not to Trump. Sounds more like he was simply removing a competing terrorist organization.
     
  5. alexa

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    With Reference to posts 52 and 54

    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/06/soleimani-peace-mission-assassinated-trump-lie-imminent-attacks/
     
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    No I only feed them, that's the role that I have to fulfill at the moment.
     
  7. Poohbear

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    So, I suppose Obama was secretly funding ISIS?
    Maybe he flew to Iraq to meet with them?

    I mean... our enemies, be they Fascists, Communists and Islamists,
    are really our secret friends - we give them the Masonic handshake.
     
  8. bigfella

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    We all do. Couldn't tell what he/she/it even believes other than it is somehow worthwhile spending forever making posts unreadable before posting them. makes no sense to me.
     
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  10. alexa

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    Clapper not convinced of the reason given for this assassination.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...ssem-suleimani-funeral-donald-trump-nato-iraq

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    Mourners attend a funeral ceremony Qassem Suleimani and his comrades in Tehran Photograph: AP
     
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    Who cares?

    The people who know that this sort of simple minded notion is how we wound up bogged down in Iraq in the first place.
     
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    Kind of dumb, like toppling Egypt, Syra, Libya, Ukraine,...

    Seems like the neocon rot has is deep in every admin
     
  13. Starjet

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    Nah, it’s the mentally stunted intellectuals preaching “Just War” nonsense, and “Proportionate Response” responsible for quagmires.

    Think about it, if all the terrorists are dead, there’s no one left to fight.

    Want to win wars? Study Sherman and Patton.
     
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    Contrary to your cartoonish characterization, this man was very high up in the Iranian government in an official capacity.

    Whatever one may make of his conduct in that role is one matter. Pretending that he is not an important figure is silly.
     
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    Even sillier is pretending his death isn’t justice.
     
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    I don't deny I have heard of such before. However it appears that in this instance we do not need to rely on his integrity, there is information which can be given which will show reality

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...ssem-suleimani-funeral-donald-trump-nato-iraq
    You will notice that there are reports that the reason why he was in Iran was for talks on a de-escalation which the Saud's had asked for and which the US was aware of - possibly be a part of and if this is the reason he was killed I do not know where the US will go on the scale of out of control states. It is one of those situations where if they have nothing to hide they had better show.
     
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    hmmm... and yet, how does the left feel about our high ranking important figure known as our duly elected president...
     
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    He was not a terrorist. He was an enemy of the US who wore the uniform and was a representative of a soveign state. He is not leading men on civilian targets. There is a civil war in Iraq, this is just a case of one side calling the opposition terrorists. He fought against the same guys that we want defeated. Isis, Alqueada, the Taliban. now that those are defeated in Iraq his next goal was the puppet government installed by the US.
     
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    The same way as the right felt about Obama. What the hell does that have to do with anything.
     
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    How does one tanker block the straights and how does that endear Iran to all the other Mideast countries that depend on that trade. The world no longer has the same need for Mideast oil. Within 30 days Russia and Velenzuala will be brought on line and the only effect will be in Asia.
     
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    Americans are pretty good people; they’re chill, easy going- I love ‘em!

    However, your government represents “the man,” and it’s everyone’s duty worldwide to flip “the man” off.

    It’s got nothing to do with me....
     
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    Then Iran should bring it. This is not a pacifist President and what he represents is a world grown tired of tolerating murderous attacks by the government of Iran through proxy groups. the world is gasping at the threats from the Mullahs but the real power has also delivered a warning. It will not be these proxy groups that take the blame and retaliation, it will be the sponsor.
     
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    Oh please, you know that the American political/military complex is dominated by Anglo-Saxons. They’re the ones who dictate policy- the rest just follow.
     
  25. Kal'Stang

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    Like I said, playing the card you played is about as stupid as it gets. When are you lefties going to figure out you've overused it and it means nothing anymore?
     

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