America has No Allies in a War with Iran!

The Iranians have been funding Hezbollah terrorists for decades now and as a Theocracy have oppressed freedom of religion. As I recall they even destroyed a cultural religious site and have been actively seeking the means to produce nuclear bombs until Obama and the EU nations reached a deal on that matter.

 

People are entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts, or their own logic. We have NEVER been at war with Iran. Nor has Iran ever started a war with the US. This is just false. In fact, in 1953, it was the CIA and MI5 (operation ajax) that orchestrated the coup that overthrew the government of Iran, because OIL negotiations had stalled. We established the Shah, financed his brutal secret police, and in1957 helped Iran create its nuclear program. The Revolution that followed was because, we were not satisfied with controlling Iran's oil and other resources, but we also wanted the people there to assimilate western behavior, dress, ideas, and worship. I can think of nothing worse to stunt ones ability to discern the difference between fantasy and reality, than a steady diet of sitcoms, fake news, fake reality shows, movies, and the exploitation of a fake consumer lifestyle. The people simply REJECTED the utter arrogance of the US to westernize, and impose their will on the Iranian people. The pro-American Shah was eventually overthrown, and replaced by Khomeini, who was anti-American. America completely abandon their friend the Shah(just like Ghedaffi), and would not even let him into the US. This is how the US treats its friends, once they become no longer useful. All this information and evidence is hiding in plain sight over the internet, for anyone who wants to accept the inconvenient truth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–United_States_relations

We should really take a very critical look at our own social, religious, and racial history, before spewing out our fake moral high ground. We have been in the ME, Africa, and S. America, killing people since the 50's. Now we are complaining because some of these people are pissed off, and have decided to fight back? The only thing more arrogant, deceptive, hypocritical, and insane, than Trump committing an illegal act of war, are his chicken-hawk, armchair war-mongering frenzied lackies, who can't wait for the body bags to start piling up. Or, the right-wing xenophobe extremists, that don't care if the US start a nuclear war, just as long as they win it. These are the same people that ignore the 10's of thousands of children and women dying from the US crippling sanctions(Syria, Iran, Venezuela, etc.). What about the collateral damage of the death of100's of thousands of civilians since 911? Who cares, right? Before you start characterizing anyone as a terrorist thug, lets here your evidence? What terrorist act was he doing before he was murdered by the US? What is the evidence that he was directly responsible for the deaths of 100's of US soldiers? Why is the US still in Iraq? Why are they continuing to foster hatred and fear, by killing more innocent people? Why did Trump only tell Saudi Arabia and Israel about his murderous intent, and not his allies? Maybe, because his allies would know that what he is doing is wrong and illegal. Do you think that people have a right to defend themselves in their own country? Just look at the US bases surrounding Iran, and listen to the lying unsupported rhetoric corporate America(and the State Dept.) is feeding us. How dare Iran provoke the US, by being surrounded by them, right? What does Iran possibly gain from an armed conflict with the US? NOTHING! What does the US have to gain from an armed conflict with Iran? A LOT. Remember, we were willing to go to war because of one missile base in Cuba. What do you think we would do, if Russia, Iran, or China, had bases surrounding the US? Maybe all countries should become judge, jury, and executioner, and begin using drones to kill people living in other countries, right? We are the only country to ever use a nuclear weapon in war, yet we bitch the loudest, when other countries use their nuclear weapons as a deterrent. We are illegally occupying foreign soil, and threaten them if they do anything about it. We are worse than a terrorist. We are the thugs.

Maybe we should start looking in our own backyard, before claiming the high moral ground. Have you seen our drug crisis, our homeless rate, wages, our level of medical access, our jobless rate, our crime statistics, our level of racial and religious intolerance, and our prison population? We certainly have NO right to decide how other countries outside of the US, should live their lives. Name just ONE country after 911, that is better-off after American intervention? Iraq? Somalia? Libya? Afghanistan? I didn't think so. Our very presence in the region is destabilizing the region. We need to just GET OUT, since WE ARE NOW THE TERRORIST. Saudi Arabia and Israel have historical reasons for addressing Iran, but the US has none.

I think one poster said it best. Maybe we should administer some kind of voter aptitude test, so that this mistake will never happen again? Maybe then, we can elect people like Tulsi or Bernie, instead of the same bought-and-paid-for corporate stooges. Just more show, and no go. It is always easy to control how people think. Just tell them what they want to hear.

 

They kill us all the time. And we just turn the other cheek.

 

Iran is the bad guy. They are the outlaw nation.

Your attempt to make America look bad is repulsive and it tells us a lot about you.

 

Correct. We have never been at war with Iran. But they have been at war with us for generations.

 

You are thoroughly indoctrinated.

I always thought conservatives were of the opinion that actions have consequences, back when I was a Republican. I knew they were for the most part culturally ignorant and insensitive, but I thought they understood that actions have consequences. Obviously you do not.

Under our trademark deception, we killed the equivalent of Sec State or other high government official. That is an act of war, though you seem to have tricked yourself into thinking otherwise.

Yes, we considered the Vietnamese to be dirty and insignificant. Many 'conservatives' think just about anywhere else on the planet is a dirty and insignificant country. That's one reason why so many places in the globe burn the US flag.

 

Just like Bill Clinton's deal with North Korea

How did that work out for the USA?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

 

What are they going to do, kill Americans? Chant “Death to America” perhaps?

 

It is YOUR IMPOTUS that is making America look repulsive but don't let the FACTS stop you!

 

He killed a terrorist who was waging war on us.

 

That asinine definition means that any government that is "waging war" on another nation is a "terrorist organization" and all officials of that government "terrorists", INCLUDING our own!

 

And compared to the current regime the shaw was a ***** cat and a modernizer and that was the ayatollahs real problem with him.

 

Not really no he was a field commander and organizer of duly designated terrorist factions as such he was a legitimate military target.

 

Wasn’t destruction of the U.S. Embassy an act of war last week? Wasn’t taking 52 American diplomats hostage for over a year an act of war in 1979-1981?

 

Your epitaph will be, “Often wrong, but never in doubt”.

 

Thanks for proving my point.

 

PROJECTING again?

 

No, it means Trump killed a terrorist. The left is putting up a bigger fuss over this pos than they do when he and his cohorts murder innocent people who are just going about their normal lives. One must conclude that the left loves terrorists.

 

Your conclusions are equally as WRONG as your asinine attempts to defend your CRIMINAL IMPOTUS's illegal Act of War!

 

I've no idea what an impetus might be. Sounds like you've been watching too much Hunger Games.

 

LOL....Huh? I said nothing that even remotely hints at that conclusion. Your reply can only be described as bizarre.

 

Sorry dude. You need to come up with them on your own. If you believe that an increase in immigration is the worst case scenario, you have a long way to go. Think bigger!

 

That is YOUR LOGIC that is bizarre!

I just exposed WHY it is bizarre!

 

Bless your little heart.

 

Unfortunately an attack on an American Embassy is an act of war as well. To let that stand was unacceptable. Iran clearly initiated the embassy attack and I am convinced that they want a limited engagement with America to distract their citizens. America's retaliation clearly has rallied the Iranian people around their leaders.

That being said, I hope America now leaves Iraq and Syria. I don't give a damn about either of those countries or their people.