Iraqi TV: Iran’s Gen. Soleimani killed in Baghdad strike

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    As I have said, I am basically agreeing with you. Just nitpicking because I don't want others to take your analogy by stressing something that isn't the main point. Soleimani was in Iraq, according to Iraq's PM, to discuss an Iraqi initiative backed by the US/Trump, to discuss ways to bridge differences between Iran and Saudi Arabia in areas which fall within General Soleimani's portfolio as Quds force commander (e.g., Yemen, Iraq Syria etc). In fact, the Saudis have repeatedly said that talking with Iran's government (president and foreign minister) is useless because they don't control the activities they want to talk about. Which adds credence to the Iraqi PM's comments.
     
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    It matters, all right. It matters to quite a lot of people in Iran and Iraq. It also matters that the BS reason given for Trump's decision to have him killed is just that. He didn't stop any imminent attack this way, but instead has placed us and our allies at greater risk and committed an act of war while violating an agreement with Iraq in the process.
     
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    Nice job defending the terrorist under the guise of "Orange Man Bad".

    :no:
     
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  5. Iranian Monitor

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    The report isn't exclusive to the Daily Mail and the source of the report is what was said by Iraq's prime minister as mentioned in debates in the Iraqi parliament.
     
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    Yes, it matters to the AMERICANS whose family members, friends and countrymen's blood is on Soleimani's hands. We're all celebrating his long-overdue demise.

    Nice to find you on the wrong side of this matter. Will you be marching with the ANSWERnik traitors who are protesting his death, too?
     
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    So you're the guy who when he heard Trump say, "Russia if your listening..." you really thought Agent Trumpov was trying to send a coded message to his Russian handlers.
     
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    Well context is everything I suppose, such as the context of an attack that killed a US contractor. If that hadn't happened, we wouldn't even be discussing this.
     
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    The regime we installed invited us to destroy the rival faction - agreed. How does this relate to Soleimani - and the decision to kill him now.

    And if you are going to claim Soleimani did "This" give your source or support for that claim. - unless it is something blatantly obvious - like the fact that Iran was fighting against ISIS and Al Qaeda in Syria - A place where Iran was Invited - and we were not.

    And explain how this situation is any different. Many Iranian soldiers were killed by our proxy army in Syria - should those responsible be assassinated ? - as this is what you are suggesting.
     
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    Not sure where this mindless gibberish having nothing to do with the OP or our conversation comes from - but, that was not me :)

    Still waiting for you to substantiate your 97% claim - preferably with something other than State Sponsored Propaganda Koolaid.
     
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    Your response is funny in all kinds of ways, but I feel a little bit bad at mocking on the spectrum types who honestly can't get a joke, so I'll level with you. The post I was responding to in a prior conversation, the other poster said they were speaking in probabilities, so I responded that Soleimani was only 97% murderous terrorist.

    Now this is going to blow your mind, but I have no way to quantify what percentage terrorist he was. I wasn't relying on any data, I was simply joking. So you can put away the spreadsheet and stop trying to devise a way to calculate the percentage of murderous terrorist.
     
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    Love the hysteria.

     
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    LOL ok so why was he walking around the Embassy attack again. The BS you guys will buy is unbelievable. Yea he was agent of peace.:eyepopping::eyepopping::eyepopping:
     
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    Sure, and we can keep going down that road, but ultimately (at least where not taking sides is concerned) we will see that there really is no good/bad side here. It’s simply a case of America wanting things to be a certain way, and the Persians saying “**** you!” On and on it goes- two sides of the same coin.
     
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    Point taken - but - the fact of the matter is that many make such comments - and actually believe what they are saying - based on State Sponsored Propaganda - and this is an issue - that strikes at the very soul of the nation.
     
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    Well I don't think "good/bad" really apply here. Iran wants to establish regional hegemony using, among other things, terrorism and violence. The US opposes that using violence, so good or bad depends on what side you are on.
     
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    Should we have had a 'how to talk to kids' conversion when bin Laden was killed?:

     
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    At least you admit you are a ally of the largest state sponsor of terror in the world a country responsible for tens of thousands of innocent lives. Makes you proud eh?
     
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    Because you think you can be provocative for lack of a substantive debate?
     
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    I wouldn't want to take the chance with a police officer who supports and defends the largest support of terrorist acts in the world whose parliment chants death to America and whose terrorism has attacked our embassy, or soldiers, killed thousands of their innocent citizens bombed European cities. Why should I assume otherwise?
     
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    Are you denying Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism? What do you think their general was doing exactly?
     
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    Your country too is responsible for tens lf thousands of innocent lives. You call it collateral damage.
     
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    It is always a terrorist on the other side of a War. Just depends which side of the fence you are at.
     
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    I think their general was doing what he had to do in order to maintain Persian regional dominance, and thwart Western/Israeli plans for influence in the Middle East. Unfortunately for Iran, they’ve been incompetent in their approach for a while now.
     
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    While I am sure Iran could do better if more regional countries joined it, I doubt any objective observer would conclude that Iran had been all that incompetent. In fact, Iran has basically succeeded in all the theaters where it has faced the US (and usually more than just the US): in Lebanon, in Iraq, in Syria, and in Yemen.
     

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