Australia fires kill half a billion animals as crisis mounts

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    Australia fires kill half a billion animals as crisis mounts

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/03/aus...-billion-animals-killed-as-crisis-mounts.html

    Nearly half a billion animals in Australia’s New South Wales state have been killed by raging wildfires in the last couple months, and the devastating death toll is expected to rise.

    Roughly 480 million mammals, birds and reptiles have been affected since bushfires started in September, according to ecologists from the University of Sydney, who add that the actual number is likely much higher.

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    For all the climate-deniers, pay attention here. This has been Australia's hottest, driest year in history. It's absolutely terrifying to me to come to the realization that this is the fate for our future because of those who denied it was happening.
     
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    They know it — denying it is just easier than saying they don’t care.


    The Irwin family has saved over 90,000 animals, including many injured in the Australia wildfires
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/australia/bindi-irwin-australia-wildfires-hospital-animal-rescue-trnd/index.html
     
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    Running up North to preach to farmers and screach at them, losing the election as a result, then complaining when the policy you want isn't enacted is just childish.

    If this is an important issue to you then present a viable electoral platform you can actually win on.
     
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    I haven't seen some of our resident Aussie trolls lately. Hope they are OK.
     
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    You need to do some independent research. Many of those fires weren't caused by global warming but by terrorist arsonists. And yes, I still deny that the weather pattern we've been seeing for awhile is caused by global warming caused by human activity. Australia's fires would be normal for this time of year. Unfortunately we have little rabid teenagers setting fires. Over 150 people have been arrested for arson in the last few days.
     
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    And just like that, the "climate change" theory falls by the wayside.

    Oh, and by the way, here's your "climate change" in Australia:

    Yes, the "climate" and "weather" labels are sarcasm.

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    This kind of terrorism is definitely worthy of the death penalty. Execution by fire in this instance would not be out of line. What absolute and irredeemable scum.
     
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    The Bushfires are being politicised on an unprecedented scale, the massive drought clearly contribute to the ferocity of the fires. Australia needs to go back to Aboriginal tribes and enlist their help and knowledge on how to maintain the bush. These people have survived in Australia for thousands of years... Climate changers insist that this is the first big fire for thousands of years because Climate change... of course this is extremely unlikely... Aboriginal management of the bush should be part of the answer.

    ‘It's miraculous’: Owners say cultural burning saved their property
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...ing-saved-their-property-20200103-p53okc.html

     
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    Here is the deal. It is thought today that a long severe drought imploded the mayan civ. long ago. If such a drought in that area happened today the alarmists would blame it on AGW.

    I am not a climate change denier. And with or without man the earth will warm until the northern ice cap melts Eventually followed by another ice age. Of course we may speed up the inevitable warming.

    We need a break through in non fossil fuel energy sources to get off of fossil fuels .

    Finding out the energy source of the tic tac ufo and replicating that tech would do it. But if our govt knows that source and is keeping it secret to protect incomes of our elites that would be a crime against humanity.
     
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    Hopefully it killed lots of their invasive species.
     
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    I think that you may be unaware of just how R&D is driven in a capitalist society like the US. You will not find your answer in government.

    Significant amounts of R&D are performed by the private sector on anything from sneakers to commercial air scrubbers, by anyone from a single person to corporations. You want to research alternative fuels? Go for it.

    A guy here in Austin created an all electric mustang that has 1000hp and runs high 9's in the 1/4 mile. Top speed 177mph. Do you really think a government agency is gonna produce a product like that? No.



    To assume that the government would even be in the loop in order to keep a "solution" secret is not very realistic.
     
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    The arrests isn’t new this year either though. They’re a mixture of negligence and intentional (though not necessarily intending to start wildfires). I’ve no idea where you got the terrorism claim from though.

    The major significant difference this season is that it’s been hotter and dryer than previously. That means the fires which are started are more extensive and harder to contain. That doesn’t necessarily mean global warming but trying to misrepresent the basic fact because you don’t want to have to even address that possibility is dishonest.
     
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    Only if they cant keep the arsonist in check. And climate has nothing to do with pyromaniacs (unless they have an axe to grind)
     
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    There have always been arsonists, just now due to global warming, the aftermath of arsonists behaviour is more severe.
     
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    I believe the climate is changing and the consequences will be devastating. I can't deny that the weather is a huge factor in these wildfires, but I do think we should not use the hottest driest year in history as proof of that climate change because erratic and wildly variable weather patterns are part of the climate change process. In other words, the coldest winter in history could just as well happen in Australia, and it would not be proof that global warming was a scam.
     
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    The same happened to Ankor Wat, a drought 600 years ago wiped out the ancient city
     
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    The other problem that Climate Changers ignore is the toxic waste solar panels are leaving behind... Climate Changers are destabilising the world with their protests, smearing of politicians and violence, wants everyone to change over to renewables but have no solution for the waste

    The solar panel toxic waste problem
    https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste-problem/


    Aussie solar panel boom sparks worry over waste
    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/aussie-solar-panel-boom-sparks-worry-over-waste


    The Mounting Solar Panel Waste Problem

    https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/solar/the-mounting-solar-panel-waste-problem/
     
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    Bring on the fusion power then. Windmills and solar energy aren't going to cut it. The UK is winding down it's use of coal. They prefer windmills. That's nice but, besides needing toxic elements to build the windmills, they need an energy source to run the windmills; and since they don't want to use coal they have to resort to burning wood. Their wood comes from the forest land of the US. How energy efficient and logical that is--not. Also alternative energy sources like solar require rare earth elements which China monopolizes. These elements have to be processed and those processes leave a hideous toxic mess, even a radioactive mess.
    What do you think China does with the toxic, left over mine tailings? They dump it into the rivers and oceans. Nice job. We'll poison the water killing off marine species, and exposing people to the toxic mess but we environmentalists.
     
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    Life is hard. Especially when it's hot, dry, and fiery.

    Just is.
     
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    Arsonists figure large in horrible wildfires here in the United States, too.

    We have LOTS of them in the American West (I live in Colorado), and it's sad, sick, and maddening as hell to find out how many of these fires are started by idiot "campers" (homeless and otherwise), as well as FIREFIGHTERS themselves -- looking for lots of overtime pay and self-glorification when they "step up" to perform various 'heroics'. You find these activities documented in internet searches every year since drought conditions started occurring more and more often during approximately the last twenty years....

    The "Rodeo-Chediski Fire" in Arizona in 2002 was just one example... there have been many, many more.
     
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