WSJ: ‘Demographic Shift’ Helping to Replace Trump’s Base of Support

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  1. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Data is the chaff used by dogmatists to avoid principles and ideals.

    If you want proof that immigration creates innovation and prosperity, compare 18th century America to 21st Century America. Are we as individuals healthier and wealthier today than our yesteryear brothers and sisters? Indeed we are.

    America is the land of immigrants and proof if you set the mind free, individual prosperity will grow.
     
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    Wow, you really are under the spell of some guru! No data huh? Evidence is bad huh? Proof is for dogmatists huh? OK I don't really have a response to that, since I don't buy into your religion or whatever it is. If you are trying to say open borders is good policy, than the onus is on you to provide data to prove it. But if you are just saying open borders is good because your sacred texts say so, I've got no answer for that; that's simply mumbo jumbo to me.
     
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    Tull comes to mind.
     
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    I watched two town halls in Virginia where incensed Americans were objecting to Democrats taking away their 2nd amendment rights. In each of those instances, an immigrant speaking in butchered English spoke in defense of banning guns. If you come to a country, it is expected that you conform to the culture you came into, not demolish it. The Democrats are demolishing our culture one state at a time using immigration.

    How long before the statues of the founding fathers are pulled down? How long before the 1st/2nd amendments are annihilated?
    Global elitists are running this experiment in Canada/Europe/Australia simultaneously. If it goes tits up, there is literally nowhere for us to flee to. If you think Japan/Korea will take in fleeing non-Japanese/Korean Westerners, you are delusional. They know a thing or two about preserving their culture.... something the rest of the West apparently forgot.

    I support immigration that is screened to remove all people who do not revere the American Constitution and the men who created it. All others should go elsewhere.
     
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    Quite the data driven argument.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here’s a data driven argument: 100 skydivers jump at 10,000 ft. All die. An investigation revealed all were wearing green boots. Subsequently, green boots were banned for skydiving. When a reporter mention the principle of skydiving, air resistance, which requires a parachute to create, the investigator rebuke: I deal in data, not theory.


    As in, it doesn’t matter how many many of the poor get shots, and pills, and treatments if their using the government’s gun to rob their neighbors to pay for it. Why? Because they are violating the principle of individual rights. To which you scorn, “Give me data, not ethical principles. And that’s how the gas showers of extermination camps come into being.
     
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    So enforcing borders equal extermination camps.

    I'll just let your argument marinate out there.
     
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    You equate open immigration with open borders-that’s very disingenuous. You know better. But you’re blinded by your fear of economic instability and dread of cultural shifts you don't like.
     
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    So you're gotcha is that I oppose both economic instability and cultural shifts that I don't like.

    Ya found me out!
     
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    Based on irrational fears and a string belief in tribalism.
     
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    So tribalism and irrational fears is why I would oppose purposeful economic instability? That is SO tribal!

    :roflol:
     
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    Nah, it’s why you don’t support capitalism and individual rights. How conventional. How so status quo. How so traditional.
     
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    Capitalism and individual rights don't really have anything to do with this topic. Stop hyperventilating and try to stay focused on the topic if you can.
     
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    Aren’t you the tariff supporter?
     
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    Oh, I’ll take that bet. $500? You’ll give me 2-1 odds?
     
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    Yes I'm a Republican.
     

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