Former LGBTQers Testify: If You No Longer Want to Be Gay or Transgender, You Don't Have to Be

lord of the rings, harry potter, knights of the realm etc. I realize these are works of fiction, but so are religious texts.

 

No they aren't, just from an archaeological standpoint the Bible is completely accurate. Nobody is claiming those other books are actual events, in fact the author of the Lord of the Rings was a Christian who saw his books as an acting out of his theology.

"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like “religion,” to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism."

For Tolkien, fantasy and myths could reflect deeper truth:

“We have come from God and inevitably the myths woven by us, though they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Indeed, only by myth-making, only by becoming a ‘sub-creator’ and inventing stories, can Man ascribe to the state of perfection that he knew before the fall.”

 

well, this is demonstrably false. See "global flood" for example. At no time has the earth ever been completely under water.

which doesn't change the fact that those books, and religious texts, are works of fiction.

 

That's one opinion, funny we have sea fossils on the top of Mt. Everest and all over the Midwest, and that there are 1,500' of water deposited sediment here in the Rio Grande Valley, an area that gets 9" of rain a year.

Agree on the fiction books, not the Bible. IMHO God exists and is not silent, but has spoken to us through His word, truly but not exhaustively.

 

it isn't an opinion. It's a scientific fact. At no time has the earth ever been flooded.

Believers in Zuess, Jupiter and every other god believe the same thing. All works of fiction however.

 

Progressives are all for sexual fluidity .. as long it only happens in one direction. IOW, they're not really for sexual fluidity.

 

Wow. You're really lost to fundamentalism, if you have to tell yourself that anyone who messes with your dogma must be a hired actor. That's pretty bad, AJ.

 

Ok.

And, I NEVER said "anyone"

Quit Mischaracterizing my Statement.

Then about the T-Shirts, PROVE Me Wrong.

 

Good for them. Live how you want. Just don’t ask for special treatment, rules, exceptions or laws that only apply to you, but can negatively effect 99.66666% of the rest of the populace.

 

When they lie about what you've said you've already won.

 

Exactly right and what you have stated is backed by scientific study.

But the alpohabet people and their allies are obsessed with attacking anyone who doesn't agree with their religious philosophy and ignore the scientific studies that prove their religion wrong.

 

Nothing in what you said and haven't proven changes the reality of this subset of people having higher than normal suicide, drug and depression rates over the rest of the population.

A Dentist is a profession. Teenagers and the elderly are physical conditions. Hommosexualsity is a pscyhcological not a physical aspect of a person. Your analogy is without merit because it conflates profession and physical condition with sexual preference.

First because its interesting. Second, this "small group" is fighting right now to remove freedom of speech and religion for everyone else to impose their religious beliefs on others.

There is no live and let live with the alphabet people. They are obsessed with creating laws to punish those who don't believe the way they do from bakeries to pronouns. At least be honest about that,

 

What “special treatment, rules, exceptions or laws that only apply to” gay people are gay rights groups asking for?

 

Which studies are you referring to?

 

There was no competition to win. If someone is so zealous that they can't process that which doesn't jibe with their ideology, there are no grounds for dialogue.

 

Huh? It sounds like you suggest Progressives oppose having a frozen sexual fluidity?

Progressives don't oppose not changing their sexual interests. Except for conservatives who have their own view of the universe is no bigger than their own world.

 

Apparently Progressives loathe the idea of gay conversion and de-transitioning. Ask anyone who has de-gayed or de-transitioned what kind of reactions they've had from the Woke. It's quite toxic.

What this tells us is that they're not interested in FLUIDITY at all. Fluid means changeable, and they don't like the aforementioned change. Ergo, they don't like fluidity.

 

Why would you need such a demonstration? Where the hell's your common sense?

Perhaps you've heard the expression, "praise by faint damnation"?

What constitutional basis is there to ban it for children?

Because it's medical malpractice.

Who are you to say what children do or don't do to their own bodies?

The point being...?

Do feel free to show how the conclusion follows from the premise.

Christ seemed to believe otherwise:

John 8:44

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.​

I doubt you can back that up, and I've heard more than one story of predators killing just for the hell of it.

And that is why it is preposterous to justify human misconduct by animal behavior.

 

How about if it is a rapist? Or a mass murderer? Or a President you don't like?

 

Ask the Bible experts. I do know that Jesus included a murderer as one of his disciples.

 

Special bathrooms? Special Pronouns? Forcing people to accept and refer to them as whatever they say they are, contrary to science or reality or else be hit with hate crimes? People joining the military knowing they can get tax payers to pay for reassignment surgery is messed up and wrong on so many levels. Forcing businesses to change policy to account for them?

Its more about the transgenders.

 

Your the one quoting the bible.

How about if it is a rapist? Or a mass murderer? Or a President you don't like?

 

I specifically said gay people, not trans people.

• Segregated bathrooms are silly (imo) and make no logical sense.
• I don’t agree with the special pronouns but agree that harassment should be a crime.
• I don’t agree with the military paying for anything for soldiers, much less reassignment surgery (but I believe in universal healthcare)
• Businesses have to change policy to account for religious persons, handicap persons — don’t agree with it then either but it is unfair to target trans people as the only ones doing this.

 

So what? Even if you are right that it is a "disorder" of some kind, that doesn't give you a license to discriminate or legislate against them in any way whatsoever.

 

How do you know that every gay person is the same and can have their sexual orientation changed? And how do you know these people are actually changed, and aren't just suppressing their desires?