What is wrong with "slut shaming"?

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  1. CourtJester

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    And what is your authority that defines human rights?
     
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    Not my authority -- just tradition over centuries of Humanitarian thought. Leftists who oppose Free Speech and Presumption of Innocence are not humane.
     
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    Few if any "stand" for 2 and 3 and "identity politics" are practiced by both sides...just different identities. "The left" being more inclusive...
     
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    We can disagree. I get most of information online.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Uh....ooooKay

     
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    don't disagree, both men and women cheat, look at Trump and Clinton

    adultery should be a felony imo, if one wants to sleep with someone new without their spouses permission, get a divorce

    single people can date as many people as they want
     
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    "Plenty of sex" is not the same as plenty of sexual partners, The latter does contribute to a more miserable and unhealthy existence as it screws up one's ability to commit (especially true for women, but also - to a lesser degree- for men) as well as it inflates the value and beauty of intimacy. Not to mention the increased risk of STD:s that comes with "sleeping around".

    It is much better to wait until you are in a stable, monogamous relationship with someone you trust. Intimacy should be associated with trust and love and not with intoxication, strangers and one-night-only.

    Self respect is very important.
     
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    Obviously. If you met liberals in real life you’d see how silly your descriptions of “leftists” are.
     
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    These types of threads always devolve into the lesser man theory of conservative thought. Anti-abortion, anti-feminism, slut shaming, defense of sexual assault, petty jealousies, all in the realm of the thinking of lesser men. It seems to me the angry white man that so defines conservative politics has a lot to with the frustrations of living with unsurmountable shortcomings. Is it not why hero worship is so popular on the right? The satisfaction of living vicariously through the image of another.

    I just don’t see how an average conservative can delude themselves into believing they are better. If one struggles with academia, is out of shape, and is sexually frustrated, how can one claim superiority? I’m sure psychologists have a term for this.
     
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    My response was to your statement that a relationship without sex was 'sad'. I really couldn't give a damn what your sex life is about, but you judge others quickly enough, hmmm?

    There is romance, without sex. There is love, deep abiding love, without sex. Sex can be fun, romantic, or selfish pleasure. But without an emotional attachment, it is mating, and not much more.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    BS, the doctor ONLY needs to know if the person is sexually active. ..which , if they have an STD obviously they are so even THAT is a pretty stupid question for a doctor to ask.


    Women do NOT have to report the number of sexual partners they have to anyone....and THAT is what I was discussing with another poster..





    Not quite sure what you're trying to say...Ya, ""Notifying past sexual partners is important.""".....so?

    """What if a woman's doc notices she doesn't care or doesn't even know how many men she's even been with?""


    Well, what if??
     
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    Uh , you just said ""Sex can be fun, romantic, or selfish pleasure"" ..then flip flop and say ""But without an emotional attachment, it is mating, and not much more."""

    No, without emotional attachment it can be fun, romantic, hot passionate, PLEASURE..
     
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    Says you. I think that a good liberal hedonistic lifestyle is the best way to live. I’m in my 60’s now and am quite healthy, both physically and mentally. All the horrible things that I have been hearing people tell me my lifestyle would lead to, have not occurred. Never got an STD, even though I have had a roll in the sheets with dozens of different women over the years. Never had to settle for an undesirable woman. Never caused a pregnancy I didn’t intend to.

    However, I am quite aware that not everyone has the ability to live a lifestyle as I live mine. I have meet plenty of people who go years between sexual partners. So I can see the value in life long clinging for some, but it is not my idea of nirvana.
     
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    Thank you for sharing, but group therapy is on the second floor, third door to the right. :)

    With a permanent partner, you get lifelong sex.
     
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    She is cool enough to sleep with, but not cool enough to be my girlfriend and He is cool enough to have sex with, but not to be my boyfriend are terrible abuses of lust and a terrible mismanagement of love. Lust and love are chemicals supposed to help us bound and build a safe environment for our offsprings and if one plays around too much with these, one will ruin this mechanism making it harder to foster a healthy relationship in the future.

    Sex is the glue of civilisation - Please, do not play around with it.

    Norms, values and virtues do not come to place out of thin air; there is a constant interaction between man and nature. If something survives for a longer time period, it means that that thing has a purpose and fills an important function - Peer bounding is not just some random "phenomenon of oppression"; This is very clearly demonstrated now that we are leaving this norm to return to the more primitive state of "free sex" - Intergender relationships are worse than ever, women have more mental issues than ever and lonely men are turning into InCels who murder people.

    It is very common for young women to feel used, worthless and dirty when the guy she spent the night with "ghosts" her by not answering her texts and calls. She thought she was something special and meant something for the man, but the loose morals of today allowed the guy to share that moment even if he did not give a damn about the girl.

    Sex is not to be used solely for personal gratification. Much like a drug, using sex the wrong way will get you into some pretty dark places, to say the least. There is a proper place and proper context for sex and that is how it should be used. Sex without emotional attachment cannot be romantic, that is quite the contradiction.
     
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    If you want sex on "a regular basis", you should find a permanent partner because that is the only way in which you can achieve that goal. If you constantly have to look for new sexual partners, you will have to accept to be without it for periods.
     
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    I didn't 'flip-flop' on a thing.

    Hot passionate... passionate about what? Getting laid? There's a goal for ya. Pleasure for whom? Yourself, or your partner? Why would you care about your partner's pleasure, if you don't have an attachment?
     
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    I hate to have to point this out to you right here in front of everyone, but "fun, romantic, hot and passionate" are emotions that one attaches to another. By definition, you're dead wrong. You should try again to make your point using different words because the words that you're using don't add up to what you're trying to say.
     
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    As is becoming more and more the case, replies to my comments seem to have little to nothing to do with my actual comments.

    I would say OK boomer but my current theory is more like a...OK Gen Z'er.
     
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    Thus is what happens when you let your delusions blind you to reality. You keep trying to paint an unrealistic picture of people who do not fit your “moral” constraints. Maybe it takes that to feel comfortable, having just accepted the limitations of toting the party line.

    Ya all keep telling me horrible things will happen if I don’t follow your moral code. I’ve never followed it and none of the horrible things happened to me. Quite the opposite. I am living proof that your moral constraints and the myths surrounding them are a bit off. But then that is rather common with conservative ideology, the ideology is a bit off and never quite lines up with reality.

    While you wallow in your complaints, I enjoy life.
     
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    Sounds like you're engaging in a lot of self justification.
     
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    Why do you assume there is something wrong with a man who doesn't want or approve of sexual promiscuity such as you admit to?
     
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    No, I never made the case that everyone has to conform to my moral code, I am simply just sharing my view on the matter and what I have shared is actually fairly rooted in reality and with facts.

    No,m I have not done that. only thing I have done is sharing facts about the relation between number of sexual partners and ability to commit to a serious relationship. If you want casual sex, others will have to reproduce for you to get those partners. :)

    It is not a myth that the family is the glue of civilisation. STD:s are not a myth. Neither is it a myth that the more sexual partners you have, the harder will it be for you to commit in the future. So, I am not sure what you are aiming at here.

    True Conservativism is very much rooted in reality whereas Progressive Liberalism is based on ideals and Utopias.

    Life can be enjoyed in many different ways. If you are happy with what you are doing, be my guest. I really do not care.
     
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    Hopefully #NotAllLiberals advocate suppression of Free Speech by violence. Hopefully #NotAllLiberals are against Presumption of Innocence. But still, let me repeat. Here.

     
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    Are you here defending sexual assault?
     

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