What is your theory on why the USA has not been to the moon in the past 40 years?

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  1. Betamax101

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    Hi Descartes, hope you are well. It's been a long time and you seem to be still pushing your agenda of fail. Please explain how "Steve the Chemist" is using what you question as real science.

    To summarise his video, he is comparing lower gravity vacuum, fine easily dispersible regolith and poor camera definition, with high Earth gravity, atmosphere, large grained sand and higher definition video. Can you see why that is somewhat lacking in the scientific method? His primary observation of "it looks like" is also not very impressive. Quite clearly when there is no resistance to fine soil, it has the ability to disperse very quickly. What the chemist says, is the regolith falling, is an unsupported claim.

    May I have your comments on the following video I just found:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG5FuVxDcPU
     
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    My arguments weren't even mentioned and you are once again in game playing mode with spamming the video again. I posted a video where the view of the dust is much clearer and more vigorous and it clearly falls at the same rate as the jumping lunar astronaut. There is simply no way to fake this with wire supports.

    If there are supports they would be extensive over this whole massive area and long EVA. There is no altering of COG during this sequence and there is no possible way to make the dust fall at the same speed as the supported person. No wonder you made no response. Like every HB in denial you fail at every point to assimilate counter videos with the same eagerness you use with your own ones.

    If you claim my arguments are answered, show me where exactly. Rapid dispersal in vacuum and lower gravity of very fine particulates.

    Maybe Steve the chemist needs to look at comparative videos, such as a stationary person jumping up and lo and behold a massively reduced amount of disturbed sand:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsHa38BSXHo

    Sadly that would require him to be an actual scientist!
     
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    Welfare. We must give our money to those who hate us, rape us, rob us, burn down our cities and who then accuse us of not caring enough about them. We must cultivate this sloth and wickedness, securing the now and forever damnation of our nation or risk offending the God of liberalism.
     
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    Yup defiantly the grays , let China go deal with them.
     
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    no need

    if China was going to mars in 10 yrs then the USA would be gearing up
    We only went to the moon because of the USSR
     
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    Some of the hotlinks are dead in the link I posted in my last post so I'll try to replace some of them here.

    Look at the reflection of the sun in this picture.
    https://contestedspaces.info/astronauts-space-walk-shuttle/

    It's a lot smaller than the reflection of the sun at the beginning of this video.

    Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage



    Here's the link from the part where the rocks are discussed.
    http://www.geschichteinchronologie.com/atmosphaerenfahrt/28_moon-stones-from-Earth-ENGL.html


    What Happened On The Moon



    I'll look for some more later.
     
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    hoax lol

    You belong back in the 50s lol

    moon is a tiny nothing compared to what nasa can do , today
     
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    And your on iggy
     
  13. Scott

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    Here are some more updated links.

    http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/27709
    (excerpts)
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    Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

    A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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    Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

    A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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    This info that used to be in this link...
    http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

    ...is here.
    http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

    If that link goes dead, do a google search on this sentence with the quotation marks.
    "9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect."


    https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?87594-Chinese-space-walk-conspiracy
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-space-spacewallk-china-bloggers_1528977.html


    If this link goes dead...
    https://alixus.wordpress.com/the-van-allen-enigma/

    ...do a google search on this sentence with the quotation marks.
    "Professor James A. Van Allen now 83, is Professor Emeritus in Geophysics at the University of Iowa."


    http://apollotruth.atspace.co.uk/
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    There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
    Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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  14. Scott

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    ARMSTRONG GUILT 1


    ARMSTRONG GUILT 2


    ARMSTRONG GUILT 3


    Apollo 11 Press Conference


    The link to the list of Apollo skeptics is dead. Here's another.
    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Apollo_program

    If the link goes dead, do a Google search on this sentence with the quotation marks.
    "Alexander Garrievich Gordon (b. 1964), Russian radio and TV host, journalist, actor, and filmmaker. Author of the film "The Americans haven't been on the Moon""

    If these links go dead...
    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Wagging_the_Moondoggie
    https://archive.org/stream/WaggingM...903/Wagging Moondoggie David Mcgowan_djvu.txt

    ...do a Google search on this sentence.
    "Everything the U.S. did, prior to actually sending a manned spacecraft to the Moon, had already been done by the Soviets"



     
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    The Aliens they encountered said 'don't come back or we gonna death ray your ass'
     
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    Climbing mountains is not subject to WH administration priorities, so that is a false comparison.

    The answer is in the above sentence.
     
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    Pretty sure we're not even certain its the deepest part of the ocean.
     
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    There is plenty of Helium 3 on the moon. The price of Helium 3 is $40,000 per ounce. So I question the idea there is no money in going to the moon.
     
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    More than 50 years ago. That is the claim. If it was safe we would be doing it.
     
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    You are ignoring logic in the question

    It costs hundreds of millions to put two guys there. How much do.You estimate it would cost to launch, fly, land and retrieve a massive co two rd full of enough helium there to make it worth while ? The answer it we can make it cheaper here in earth
     
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    Wrong it is more than a question of safety there.is simply not enough to be gained
     
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    Not sure. I think once America discovered disco music, the biological magnification of the polyester toxins in their clothes permanently damaged baby boomer brains. Once they are gone, we will probably go back.
     
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    My brother was an Apollo era scientist whose analysis lab was in the "Lunar Receiving Lab" building in Houston during all the manned lunar missions [he retired after 42 years with NASA.] When I was a kid my parents and I visited his NASA lab several times. The first time was right before the first manned Apollo mission when he showed us all the elaborate quarantine equipment that had been set up to receive the returning astronauts and lunar samples..

    Back in the early 80s I asked him why after many moon landings NASA stopped manned lunar missions. He said it was "political" and the government was focusing on "lower space" [ie, space station, space shuttle, etc.]
     
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    It seems that most people who worked on Apollo didn't know it was going to be a hoax.

    http://www.theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/comment/28159
    (excerpts)
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    Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

    A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
    ---------------------------------------------
    Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

    A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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    The proof that it was a hoax is crushing.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068
     
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    That is because they didn't hoax anything. Only complete morons and ignorant laymen still cling to this proven hoax fantasy. It is staggering that you scatter your droppings on yet another thread when you have been presented with overwhelming and irrefutable evidence on numerous other threads where you have equally spammed this same crap! Are you ill or something?

    They weren't fake and the entire astronomical and scientific community know this.

    FTFY

    Complete bullshit. NASA's information is public domain on all aspects.

    Yes, but the feasibility of hoaxing even one mission would preclude doing it. Simpler to just do the mission.

    You sad little person with your spam cut and paste bullshit line.

    Just this one post proves you are a liar with nowhere to go:-
    Apollo and Sunlight : addendum | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics

    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)[/QUOTE]
     
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