'How dare you': Greta Thunberg tears into world leaders over inaction at U.N. climate summit

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  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Logic Errors:
    ** Rand U Fallacy (making up numbers as if they were data).
    ** False Authority Fallacy ("science and meteorological specialists" are not science).
    ** Bulverism Fallacy (dismissing an argument due to who is making it).
    ** Argument of the Stone Fallacy (dismissing an argument as "absurd" without counterargument).
     
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    Please document how you arrive that EVERY "science and meteorologic specialist in the world" agrees with your talking points.....and that the world will end in 12 years. I thought it was 2020? Will you cry with Greta when it doesn't?
     
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    Pray tell, exactly what has she accomplished? What has changed as a result of her actions, that will directly impact how events occur in the future? What has she done besides yell at those who are older than her, as if she were an expert in her field that is beyond question?
     
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    Moronic reply on your part since not a single scientist nor Greta Have declared “that the world will end” in 12 years. That’s just dick-weed Hannity rhetoric.
     
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    Ask ten thousand school students who Greta is, then ask those same students who Sean Hannity is. Question answered.
     
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    Your only argument is that you slept in Holiday Inn last night. Not impressed with your Random guy on the Internet degree ... sorry, dude.
     
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    Good question! I can't think of anything besides yelling at her elders.
     
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    It was a logically sound reply.

    Yes they have. While Greta might not have specifically said those words (I'm not going to do an extensive search of her quotes), she has definitely said that "we are less than 12 years away from not being able to undo our mistakes". AOC, however, has specifically said those very words. I think she's the first one to popularize the number 12, although I could be wrong about that.

    No, Hannity did not say anything of the sort. AOC did, however.


    Again, you are making numerous logic errors within your posting:
    Insult Fallacy.
    RandU Fallacy.
    Bulverism Fallacy.
     
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    That you think that's what's going on is more 'screwed up'. And very very weird.
     
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    She hasn't 'accomplished' anything. She's a puppet, in the service of those who are determined to exploit her.
     
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    Never made that argument. I did make numerous others though, which you are choosing to ignore. Also, you are continuing your Bulverism Fallacy from earlier.
     
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    You think that's a measure of her value/worth? You DO realise kids will notice any young 'celebrity', dontcha? Good or bad?
     
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    Where did you come up with the notion that "moronic" is a word that gives your side special consideration? Something you found in the 'DICK WEEDS"?
     
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    It worked for the Pedophile, Michael Jackson!
     
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    Comparing a young girl whose only crime is concern for the environment to a pedophile is a really ****ed in the head argument.
     
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    Well the head of the largest investment firm in the world, (Blackstone $7 trillion worth ) agrees with her view of the world and not yours, so yes I do think it is an indicator of the value of her worth
     
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    "Fossil fuels are hydrocarbons, primarily coal, fuel oil or natural gas, formed from the remains of dead plants and animals. In common dialogue, the term fossil fuel also includes hydrocarbon-containing natural resources that are not derived from animal or plant sources".

    Note: "Oil does not come from fossils" is refuted by "fuel oil (is) formed from the remains of dead plants and animals"

    You seem to be unaware of the difference between the terms "fossil", and "fossil fuels", in common usage.

    Fossil: def.

    "the remains or impression of a prehistoric plant or animal embedded in rock and preserved in petrified form".
     
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    Talk about ****ed in the head...... The only comparison is that young minds full of mush and liberals adore both of them!
     
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    So do multi-billionaires, heads of state, and the world's scientist. You, not so much.
     
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    Why do those qualify in any way? Are they the elite you so long to give control to?.....So they can dictate how the rest of us live? Isn't that the goal of this whole climate change scare? To deliver power into the hands of those who feign to know best? My Dad, God rest his soul, predicted this to me in the late 60's. They went from talking about depleting the ozone to what it is now. (You don't hear about ozone anymore). The Democrat debate tonight was all about trying to scare the wits out of people and at the same time to give them free stuff. You guys will do or say anything for power!
     
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    Dude, I’m not a Democrat.

    What was Trump promising when he said Mexico would pay for the wall, or that he had a fantastic medical plan that would cover everyone, or that he would be too busy to golf, or that he would get all the troops out of the middle-east. Trump was saying anything to get elected. It’s not just a problem for the Democrats.
     
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    Well Dude.....who will you be backing in 2020? I liked to tell people I am an independent at heart back when the GOP was represented by McCain and Romney. Now....after Trump, I am an unabashed Republican! He sure has accomplished an awful lot even in spite of the fact haters have been after him, accomplishing nothing else, since 2016. It's just really weak they have to pit a little 16 year old against him.....but we have Vince Vaughn in our court so I guess that makes up the difference!
     
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    So she has accomplished becoming a public figure whose life is essentially going to be ruined when she is an adult. Let us rephrase the question. Exactly what has she accomplished that amounts to anything that is actually meaningful in the real world? What has she served to change as a result of her advocacy?
     
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    And you realize that you just used a nemesis of the eco-minded, as a support key for the.... eco-minded?
     
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    She has influenced the outlook of a generation on environmental concerns. She’s 16. What have you done at 2 - 3 times her age that has even the slightest impact on the world around you? Sit in grandma’s basement and argue with the same 20 people on the same issues with the same results?
     

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