McConnell sets stage for impeachment trial launch, warns 'both sides' could call witnesses

Enjoy the show my friend.

 

As someone on here (Tog i think?) explained to me with much conviction and vigor: it's a political trial, not a judicial one, so evidently, using judicial rules to find equation to this process is moot.

Or something.

 

You didn't think this was going to be a real trial did you? The likes of Lindsey, Mitch and other Trump boot lickers have already killed that notion

Vindman's testimony is already public evidence, what they want is the other four, those who witnessed Trump's scheme, first person testimony, as I said, the jury Pelosi is after is public opinion

 

Just like in the Clinton trial.
The Democrats were OK with that.

 

Which isn't going to be easy for Mitch, they don't have the freedom now to deflect by complaining about the process, no moments for a Jordan to grandstand, they have to show that Trump wasn't using his position as President to ask a foreign nation to investigate a political rival for his own personal benefit.

And daily it seems more possible relevant information surfaces

 

The Democrats could have had this testimony in the impeachment inquiry/investigation.
They chose to not take it.
So sad.

 

LOLOLOLOLOL
No. Burden of proof is fully and wholly on the house managers.

 

More wishy bone non-sense, your side's got nothing. If your side originally went after Pence maybe your side would have a case.

 

Who? Bolton?

He was walking a maybe yes maybe no line, his aid went the Court route, and given they had been trying to get McGhan to appear for over nine months via the Courts they certainly weren't going to put everything on hold while Bolton played games

They saw Trump already playing games, asking foreigners to help him in his reelection, they didn't want to wait possibly past the election to hear from Bolton

 

Anyone.
They only reason the Democrats did not have the testimony they wanted before they voted on the articles on impeachment is they chose to not go after it.
So sad.

 

Trump needs an eyebrow trim!!!

 

All Trump has to do is invoke executive privilege over conversations and documents with Giuliani, Bolton, Mulvaney. A luxury the Biden's, Archer and Heinz do NOT have.

 

Indeed. But I also sense a trap laid for the Democrats in Giuliani and Bolton's eagerness to testify.

 

That is not true, they sent umpteen subpoenas to individuals and entities requesting documentation, all of which was ignored or refered to the Courts, as I said, they have been after McGhan for over nine months

 

To do such would mean refusing requests from the Senate, which would go a long way in proving the obstruction charges and aiding Pelosi's effort to portray for the public that the whole "trial" a charade

 

When did the court rule against the claims of executive privilege and compel the subpoenaed parties to answer said subpoenas?

 

Giuliani? You kidding, no way in hell would Mitch ever let Rudi appear on live TV in the Senate proceedings, just the thought would send shivers through the GOP's ranks, Rudi comes off as a clown in five minute cable interviews, on the stand under oath for hours and he would eventually incriminate himself and probably Trump

 

The legal exercise of executive privilege is not and indeed cannot be obstruction; obstruction can only exist in the context if the court compels an answer to the subpoena and the parties in question refuse to do so.

The Democrats impeached Trump foe the legal exercise of executive privilege.

 

They haven't, as is a normal strategdy in Trump America, they have tied up and delayed any requests in the Courts indefinitely, as I noted, McGhan has been at since last April

 

Just like Clinton was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of perjury, suborning perjury and obstruction yet according to Schumer, Pelosi and Nadler back then was rightly not removed from office.

 

As the courts have not compelled the parties to answer the relevant subpoenas - and in doing so, reviewed and negated the claim of executive privilege - the parties in question, under the cover of EP, have no legal duty to answer said subpoenas.

 

Ah, the question at hand, what is the "legal exercise of executive privilage," the very question Trump and associates have tied up in the Courts for close to a year. It is not a given just because Trump proclaims it, no prior President ever said or used it to "protect" nearly everything even remotely connected to the President, it has its limits

 

Almost right, but not quite.
They got him for "blanket immunity."

 

And it is up to the court to decide if the various claims of EP are within those limits.
Until then, they remain legal.

The Democrats impeached Trump foe the legal exercise of executive privilege.

 

She can portray it anyway she wants. Fact is that won't matter after Biden pleads the 5th, that's all folks will remember on election day. With Warren, Sanders and Amy Klobuchar tied up from the Campaign trail with the trial, the Democrats won't stand a chance in November.