Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Reality.....that will be a first.
     
  2. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Who’s asking ? It isn’t Trump. He’s refused every piece of evidence asked for and doesn’t want to testify. That’s hiding.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He did fund Al Qaeda - as I have proven to you numerous times - in numerous ways. Funding the Islamic Front - is funding Al Qaeda when it comes down to brass taxes - if you had been paying attention.

    1) The name doesn't matter - if they are Al Qaeda affiliates sharing the same ideology.
    2) Al Nusra - which is a branch of Al Qaeda in Syria was also armed and funded directly.

    What part of
    What part of the above do you not understand ? They are all on the same team -a team led by ISIS /Al Qaeda -fighting for the same cause - fighting under the same ideology.

    Why are you fixated on the name of the team member ? as if one is different than the other - desperately searching for some respite from reality.

    Fact - Qatar and Saudi Arabia were arming Al Qaeda and ISIS directly.

    Biden: the Saudis, the Emiratis, etc. What were they doing? They were so determined to take down Assad and essentially have a proxy Sunni-Shia war, what did they do? They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad except that the people who were being supplied were Al Nusra and Al Qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world[/QUOTE]https://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/

    Fact 2: The CIA (from above) The CIA has also been funneling weapons and money through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others who provide direct and indirect support to groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda.

    What part of The CIA arming Al Qaeda - do you not understand ?

    Are you going to try and claim that Obama didn't know or some mindless thing ? as was done by another poster in a desperate pit of denial and thought avoidance ? because that is the only option left.

    The US was Arming, Supplying and Supporting Al Qaeda - Full Stop
     
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    So the first ammendment is crapped on.. got it.
     
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    You know calling hom a traitor doesn't make it so.
     
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    And demoncrats tried soo hard they could have used the legal system to get what they wanted but chose not to with the slightest resistance.
     
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    In order to go to a top college like MIT or Harvard, one needs to get straight A’s in high school. In order to get into a top state school, one has to have a high school grade point average of 3.5 or higher. In order to believe your hypothesis, one would have to believe that the smartest kids, who went to college ended up brainwashed while the slow kids, who couldn’t go to college didn’t.
     
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    In a lot of cases, YUP...
     
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    I do that because you keep trying to use links where you seem to think they support your claim that Obama funded al Qaeda..
    They don't.
    Another example from your last attempt:
    Formed in 2012, in November of that year The Washington Post described al-Nusra as "the most aggressive and successful" of the rebel forces.[43] In December 2012, the United States Department of State designated it a foreign terrorist organization,[44] and in November 2013, it became the official Syrian branch of al-Qaeda.[45]

    This is not Obama.

    https://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/[/quote]
    From your link:

    Update: The White House on Saturday said Vice President Joe Biden “apologized for any implication that Turkey or other allies and partners in the region had intentionally supplied or facilitated the growth of ISIL (IS, ISIS) or other violent extremists in Syria.” The operative word here is “intentionally” – please note that this language does not constitute a retraction of Biden’s claims that the US’s closest Mideast allies armed and funded extremist groups in Syria.

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  10. dagosa

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    Sure, and delayed the impeachment inquiry while each request went through the courts. He’s done it before. That’s the rich man’s MO.
     
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    You'll note I mentioned quite a few trades in my list, not only tertiary qualifications. The future is very definitely in technology, medicine, science, teaching, construction, etc. We have no choice but to adapt to that, no matter how much we want 'philosophy' to mean as much as it did last century. This is about keeping the vast majority of our kids gainfully employed to a level that they can afford to keep a roof over their heads, in a world wherein only a handful of 'philosophers' are actually needed.
     
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    The right called OBama a lot worse for..” you can keep your doctor.” Let’s get serious. Trump is a traitor to the United States, literally asking foreign powers on TV to interfer with elections while dissing intel agencies in favor of Putin’s version of the world. He’s a traitor, no if, ands or butts. Moscow Mitch the Traitor - enabler is just as worse. If he have any lips he could kiss Trumps asteroid. They deserve each other.
     
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    From your link:

    Update: The White House on Saturday said Vice President Joe Biden “apologized for any implication that Turkey or other allies and partners in the region had intentionally supplied or facilitated the growth of ISIL (IS, ISIS) or other violent extremists in Syria.” The operative word here is “intentionally” – please note that this language does not constitute a retraction of Biden’s claims that the US’s closest Mideast allies armed and funded extremist groups in Syria.

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    The links specifically support my claim - Biden's statement is fact. Biden withdrawing that claim (in 2014 when these facts were not as common knowledge) does not change the fact that Bidens claim was fact.

    And I gave you a link which proves that Biden's claim was a fact - in the same post.

    Are you claiming now that Saudi Arabia and Qatar - and Turkey for that matter - did not supply the Islamist rebels with arms ?

    What part of:

    The CIA has also been funneling weapons and money through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others who provide direct and indirect support to groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda.

    Did you not get from the previous post ?
     
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    that's a lie Trump did not ask for interference to our elections....

    It's a good thing he was dissing the FBI they were actually out to get him. talk about traitors

    you might try less CNN and VOX
     
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    The links specifically support my claim - Biden's statement is fact. Biden withdrawing that claim (in 2014 when these facts were not as common knowledge) does not change the fact that Bidens claim was fact.

    And I gave you a link which proves that Biden's claim was a fact - in the same post.

    Are you claiming now that Saudi Arabia and Qatar - and Turkey for that matter - did not supply the Islamist rebels with arms ?

    What part of:

    The CIA has also been funneling weapons and money through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others who provide direct and indirect support to groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda.

    Did you not get from the previous post ?[/QUOTE]
    Your link proves nothing.
    Biden retracted it.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your link proves nothing.
    Biden retracted it.[/QUOTE]

    Yes but we know from other sources - As in from Congress - that Bidens claim was true.


    Do you believe what is stated above by Congress or not ?
     
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    Yes but we know from other sources - As in from Congress - that Bidens claim was true.




    Do you believe what is stated above by Congress or not ?[/QUOTE]
    I'm sorry, but if you can't come up with a link that directly says Obama purposely funded Al Qaeda I'm not going to spend more time disproving your stories.
     
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    https://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/

    Fact 2: The CIA (from above) The CIA has also been funneling weapons and money through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others who provide direct and indirect support to groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda.

    What part of The CIA arming Al Qaeda - do you not understand ?

    Are you going to try and claim that Obama didn't know or some mindless thing ? as was done by another poster in a desperate pit of denial and thought avoidance ? because that is the only option left.

    The US was Arming, Supplying and Supporting Al Qaeda - Full Stop[/QUOTE]
    Ridiculous. Your source is garbage GOP propaganda.
     
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    Another conspiracy. Can't actually pin down any commie teachers and textbooks are mainly picked in Texas but there's definitely a conspiracy. LOL The GOP propaganda machine is pure misinformation that people who know history and politics know is crap.how many hundreds of phony scandals that go nowhere near a courtroom do you people have to see before you figure this out? Breaking the GOP is the swamp and always has been since Harding. The rich pay the same percentage as you so we have no money to invest in infrastructure and cheap education and training so we have the worst inequality and upward mobility ever. No matter how many $8 an hour jobs you can get LOL and actually the amount of time you have to spend to find a job is like 6 months. It's a mess.we are also the only rich country without healthcare living wage daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations... Great job!
     
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    Nice fart..
     
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    I'm sorry, but if you can't come up with a link that directly says Obama purposely funded Al Qaeda I'm not going to spend more time disproving your stories.[/QUOTE]

    So you believe congress - The CIA has also been funneling weapons and money through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others who provide direct and indirect support to groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda

    but because they do not mention Obama - you don't think he was involved. So you thing the CIA was covertly arming Al Qaeda via direct and indirect methods - for 5 years - but Obama knew nothing about it.

    The force of denial and thought avoidance is strong with you.
     
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    Ridiculous. Your source is garbage GOP propaganda.[/QUOTE]

    Of course - despite the fact that it was a Dem who introduced the "Stop Arming Terrorist Act" into the house with 13 Bipartisan co-sponsors.

    Crazy -- it's all Crazy talk :)
     
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    And MSNBC and the BBC and the hindustani times and every respected newspaper in the modern world and every newspaper but those owned by Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox and there you have it Rupert Murdoch running the GOP now. Thank God he's old and about to die. His son is complaining because he misinforms about global warming thank God.
     
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    LOL.....
     
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    You really have it in for philosophy!!

    Someone not interested in engineering (for example) is not going to be happy being an engineer, nor are they likely to be a good engineer. However, with a different degree program they may be great at understanding a customer's problems, describng solutions, understanding effective processes, understanding business strategy and management, etc.

    Think about it this way. Those people at Apple and Microsoft who are figuring out how their proucts best fit together, how they look, what features they have, etc., is being designed by people who do not necessarily have STEM degrees. They have all sorts of different degrees.
     
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