Trump followers demand their Jack Nicholson moment.

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  1. Durandal

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    Beginning at ~5:25 in the video:

    Cooper: When you were arrested, the President of the United States said he didn’t know you.

    [Clips of Trump claiming he doesn’t know "those gentlemen" and doesn’t know "them" are played]

    Parnas: The truth is out now, thank God. Yes, that was a big day for us. I thank God everyday. I was worried that that day’s not gonna come. I thought they were going to shut me up, make me look like the scapegoat, and try to blame me for stuff that I wasn’t done (sic), but with God’s help and the great legal team that I have besides (sic) me, we were able to get the information out, and now it’s out there, so I welcome him to say that even more. Every time he says that, I’ll show him another picture.

    Cooper: He’s lying.

    Parnas: He’s lying.
     
  2. Durandal

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    Trump hasn't testified under oath either, and Republicans seem eager to get this all out of the way without him ever doing so, and without examining witnesses under oath. Funny, that. It's as though they know Trump is guilty and don't want that coming out to the public under threat of perjury, where it becomes much more difficult for you and every other trump devotee to deny it. Got to keep it all in the realm of doubt, where propagandists can sufficiently bury the evidence and distract and misdirect the public far away from the matter. That's what Trump and every unprincipled, self-serving Republican on Capitol Hill seeks and attempts to do. But why do you fall for it? What need do you have for Trump to be pure as the driven snow? Can't you like his policies while also acknowledging that he is a scumbag who has abused his powers and thereby committed impeachable offenses? Can't you handle a world with more shades than black and white?
     
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    Clearly he is insane according to most leftist ;)
     
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    Just look at it this way, once he is acquitted those on the left will have far more to cry about for a really happy and long time ;) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    This is about as fair and impartial a trial as OJ Simpson's. Certain shameless Republican senators have admitted that they aren't going to be impartial, and thus, that they're going to break their oath taken today to be impartial.

    BLOTUS will be gone by January of next year one way or another, though. As far gone as trumpublicans are, they (you) are far from a majority and will not be able to carry him through the coming election.
     
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    Sadly deluded, as all theists are, but that doesn't call into question his sanity. Humans are unfortunately wired by nature to be religious.
     
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    Does that make you feel dirty at all. after that shlt show the dems put on :)
     
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    More nothing. No proof of anything and no evidence that would stand up in a court of law. Nothing but word salad.
     
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    Sure it does, I have read to that very accusation here, media and Hollywood elites.. :) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    This colossal farce has handed the election to the Republicans. Thanks Nancy.
     
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    With a side of "Heard tings dressing" mmmmmmmmm good :)
     
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    Trump refuses to release evidence or allow witnesses to testify, but he can't stop this witness.
     
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    And the ability to read minds.
     
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    The House never subpoenaed anyone. The one subpoena that was issued was pulled back. Trump is permitted to exert executive privilege. House Democrats could have filed suit in a federal court to override that. They never did that. Why not ???
     
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    They didn't want Trump dragging it out in the courts for months and months when they already had the evidence and testimony that they needed, at least going by what they've said. Contrary to Republican and trumper claims, they do indeed have the evidence they need. The problem is that there is no standard of evidence that will satisfy trumpers and Republicans at this point. None at all.
     
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    So Pelosi held the articles for a month. Hilarious. So Democrats are not in favor of our system of justice and government. Democrats believe that Trump is guilty until he proves himself innocent. Democrats obviously believe that Trump will win unless the Democrats do everything possible to smear him even though there is no possibility he will be removed from office. This is destroying the Democratic Party. Thanks to the superior strategic thinking of Nancy Pelosi. Disgusting.
     
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    Let us consider the last president to be impeached but the senate wouldn't remove him from office for perjury. And6 it was a republican senate! If the senate was controlled by dems today is there any doubt they would remove him?

    If this deal did not stink of dirty politics. ...and a witch hunt to find an impeachable offense since he beat hillary less people would defend trump.

    And if hillary had won and did the same accusation every dem here would be like the trump supporters.

    And no one with a brain will believe any denial of this. Lol

    Question is in a court of law would trump be convicted of bribery? Hell no. Yet if the dems controlled the senate and given the state of politics today they would remove trump for having a fat arse.
     
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    Uh, no.

    Again, established facts. Whine about those, if you can.
     
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    Not to get too nerdy on the constant, whiny "but it's all hearsay" meme by Trumpers but..................

    Sixth Amendment--The Co-Conspirator Exemption to the Hearsay Rule: The Confrontation Clause and Preliminary Factual Determinations Relevant to Federal Rule of Evidence 801(d)(2)(E)
    https://scholarlycommons.law.northw...e.com/&httpsredir=1&article=6575&context=jclc

    Part of Parnas' assertion is that Donnie dimbulb and his hack attorney Rudy suggested to Parnas that Rudy "represent" both Parnas and Fruman in order to justify a claim of attorney client privilege regarding conversations involving Crooked Donald. That is evidence of a conspiracy to conceal information from the authorities thus making any claim of attorney client privilege moot.
     
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    What are those facts ???? Crickets.
     
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    I love how Parnas described the people in Trump's orbit as a cult. Talk about being spot on.
     
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    The irony in the above is palpable.
     
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    Solicitation. That is what he was impeached for. Have you not read the articles of impeachment?
     
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    Solicitation, asking another to commit a crime. That is what Trump has been impeached for, Soliciting. Crime bosses don’t commit crimes, they ask their underlings to do the crimes for them.
     
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    No, liberals are not like conservatives. Modern Democrats are not nearly as corrupt as modern Republicans. Every Republican President from Nixon to Reagan to the Bushes to Trump has been surrounded by large members of people who were convicted of criminal activity. Yet very few criminals surrounding Carter, Clinton, and Obama.

    That some conservatives want to believe things are other than they are does not mean that liberals want to do the same.
     
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