Under US Pressure, Social Media Companies Suspend Venezuelan, Iranian & Syrian Accounts

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wonder how this goes down in a country which used to pride itself on having freedom of speech

    more here https://consortiumnews.com/2020/01/...s-suspend-venezuelan-iranian-syrian-accounts/

    I would imagine they will create an alternative that the US cannot censor though then the US will likely stop people being able to access these. I think we can safely say the US no longer has freedom of speech/the press though that was obvious due to her papers agreeing to Assange being given according to the UN prolonged psychological torture and then possibly coming to your country to face his death if he is still alive.

    The US Government currently appears to be in control of what information people have access to and is making sure it only has access to what it wants the people to believe. The US also currently appears to be controlling the UK/France and Germany - see separate thread on them declaring Iran has gone against the Treaty Trump destroyed and bullied the EU into not keeping.

    Democracies do not work as the US is currently working. How long can it continue to bully Europe - of course in that Europe was wrong to hold back for one minute - if you give in to a bully they always get worse.

    This has to be the US moving towards an Authoritarian society and the end of the alliance between Europe and the US - to Boris's horror that seems to include the UK. It has to bring the UK back closer to the EU whether or not it rejoins.

    So the US public without the right to gain access to material which will allow them to know contradictory information to those its Governments claims. The US people being a people who will be controlled by their Government on what they think and the US seemingly ending its previous alliances.

    What do you think?
     
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  2. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No surprise here.

    The US is the Land of the Censor and the Home of the Brainwashed.
     
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    No one is preventing those countries from starting their own social networks.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You're joking right? Why should freedom of speech extend to enemies?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow look at that, we are turning into Iran.

    All downhill from here.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    **** all of these people but if they want to post on the internet so be it.
     
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    Obviously, alright—you still have yours.


    Still, using force against private businesses to punish nations without a declared war, or at least a law to authorize it, is immoral because it’s violates the principle of Individual Rights, including “freedom of thought”. Though, if we were at a declared war with these nations, then it would be moral and proper and I would support it.
     
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  9. Texas Republican

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    If this kind of technology existed in 1942, we would have done this with the Germans and Japanese.

    I have no problem doing this with our enemies today.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We were also at war with them. That’s a fundamental difference.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Iran has been at war with us since 1979.

    We’re at war with those nations just as we were with the Soviets in the Cold War. There are no actual military engagements, but there are things going on.
     
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    With the exception of protecting children from being sexualized, censorship never accomplishes anything good.
     
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  13. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    This suggests you do not give a good ******n about constitutional requirements. I thought you Republicans were into the constitution and the rule of law?
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then let congress authorize or pass legislation, instead of a wannabe tyrant’s rant’s and dictates—Trump is President of the Unites States, not Reich Chancellor of Germany, not Supreme Leader of Iran, not the Great Leader Comrade Kim of North Korea, not President of Russia, and not the President of Venezuela, though he would love to have their power.
     
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    A comment which completely ignores the point of the OP. I take it you are a fan of censorship - and someone who dislikes freedom of speech, information, press.
     
  16. Jeannette

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    And it's getting worse. I like to go on to sites whose main interests might not interest me, but I find them sincere, and they do give out information that I will not get elsewhere.

    Every single one of these sites is or has been under attack, and consequently forced to go elsewhere to continue broadcasting. I recall a few years back, that the attacks was on Dr. Paul Craig Roberts since he was not going along with Washington' narratives against Russia. Yet instead of taking his opinion into consideration, since he is one of the most brilliant men in the country and has quite a few books to his credit, they began to denigrate him - and when that didn't work, they made it difficult for him to stay on the net.

    Today the attacks are on everyone who doesn't tow the liberal line, except the ones that should be censored for their repulsiveness and offenses to the American people.


    I noticed lately that the Greek news site that gave me information that I couldn't get on other sites, has now become a carbon copy of the MSM. Washington wants to control the world and like Putin said, the Soviet Union failed, and they will too.

    As for Britain, they are one and the same with the US. To believe otherwise is foolish. And as for the EU, they will split up soon. There's a lot of rifts going on between France and Germany. The problem of course is Germany. They see the EU only as a means for it's own aggrandizement.
     
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    As Plato noted, when the debate is lost, slander becomes the tactic of the loser.

    That's why the propagandists attack Paul Craig Roberts and the rest of the whistleblowers, including Assange and Manning who are both in prison.
     
  19. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The names used on the internet can be quite the opposite of who someone is and what they represent. Best to see people through the contents of what they write.:oldman:
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Face Book and I think another have now banned Professor Muhammed Marandi. When he asked why he was told on the orders of the US. I find it sad the way the people of the US get the same kind of information as people used to do in the USSR, The difference was the people of the USSR knew that was the situation.

    He was banned because of his knowledge. The US does not want their people to know the truth. They want them only to know US propaganda and not to have access to alternative information. They want their people to buy into their dehumanisation of the Iranian people so that they can as Pompeo said 'starve them to death'. (Reported by Zarif)
     
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  21. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are a lot of things going on that we're not told. I heard from a reliable source on the internet that there was a skirmish with Russian forces over one of the oil fields we stole in Syria. Russian helicopters and American jets were flying overhead.
     
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    Hopefully we're out of Syria and the whole Middle East soon.

    But we'll still be there to guarantee the free flow of oil in international waters for China, Japan, Europe, etc. even though we don't need the oil.
     
  23. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

    So why are we stealing the oil? Well, here are four reasons:

    1 - To keep the Syrian people destitute for not kicking out Assad and backing the terrorists and installing sharia law. It's called 'Democracy in Action'.

    2 - To ethnically cleanse the indigenous Arabs and give the oil and gas rich areas to the Kurds.

    3 - To keep Russia from developing Syria's gas fields as per their
    agreement with Assad. It's called American 'competitiveness' in action.


    4 - To break up the Shia crescent that runs from Iran to Syria and protects Russia's southern flanks from the jihadists in the Gulf.



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    We'll go now and free them all
    to show them that we're standing tall
    besides them, as they fight and kill
    each other.

    But never think that the melee
    will make us go away.
    For what it does is stir us on
    for more each passing day.-
    Jeannette

     
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    I don't want to free anyone. They're animals over there, except for Israel.
     
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    It's hard to support Israel when listening to comments like that.
     

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