Educated vs "Non-Educated"

I am not a member of the GOP - and have not paid much attention to Ukraine-gate.

Claiming that the entire GOP party is a Russian Asset - is way off the deep end - not rational, not logical, and not true.

The Establishment propaganda machine is a function of more the big money interests that run the show and the Establishment elite bureaucrats .. with the elite politicians coming in third - both red and blue.

That you would make the above claim - is a function of your ingestion of propaganda - and lack of understanding of how our system works.

Its a "Pay to Play system" .. if you play - along with the Establishment - you get paid - and everyone knows it.

 

They marvel too at the recessions of Republicans and the low minimum wage

 

Republicans should be so smart. They outnumber the Dems in felony convictions and plead guilty over 100-1. Your statement is wishful thinking, 100-1 is fact.

 

Everyday life was the problem and the Church was sold as the solution. Joe Peasant looked up from is hovel and he could see a huge church and huge manor house. He knew his place.

"Out" with the old church, "in" with the new one.

Would you include the privatized health care models in the Netherlands and Switzerland? Is your concern around government providing support for people with low incomes so they can pay for care they need?

Obamacare has markets, so why are you saying Democrats are opposed to them?

The comparison is a bit odd given you're wrong about Democrats being opposed to markets.

Why do I get the feeling you're looking for reasons to leave millions of Americans without the means to afford health care?

Marriage is a civil institution as well that provides significant legislated benefits for married people. They don't want to give up their privileged position. The solution for homosexuals is to get in on the gravy.

What do you expect homosexuals to do--pass up the benefits?

 

Read them and weep.

 

Most people, liberal or conservative, don't know how the economy works.

Trump is hurting the brand.

 

Sure. And the amount of hydrogen fused per period of time in a star has no bearing on the energy output of that star. Turn off the TV.

 

With modern cars, car dealers, tire stores, brake shops, etc. there wouldn't be enough work for four independent shops in most towns that small. Of course, if your town is isolated and therefore unattractive to dealers and specialty shops, you could keep four mechanics busy.

 

Yes. One of the media I was referring to.

Yes, and the new authoritarianism absent any church. It was a divergence. From one, many.

I’m not interested in appeal to emotion. Only facts and logic here. My point is the authoritarian personality of people unwilling to look outside of authoritarian leadership for answers. You are doing it here, ironically.

I wouldn’t call anything that regulated a market. And they only exist as a means to an end. They are meant to inconvenience people enough they ask for single payer. Single payer is the goal.

Can you make a compelling case that Democrats favor market solutions with supporting evidence? Or just say I’m wrong?

Probably because you are driven by emotion and are not paying attention to what I’m actually saying. For example, you jump on my statement about Democrats and markets, but completely ignore my other options including a purely socialist (by socialist member’s definition) solution proven to work in the real world. Don’t ignore good solutions in pursuit of perfect ones when perfect solutions are always unrealistic in reality.

Yes it’s morphed into a civil institution as well. Again, as a means to wield authority. Again, proving my point. Yes, gravy in return for submission to authority. Everyone wants gravy.

No, it went as expected. But not how I’d prefer. If individual liberty was the goal it seems a hollow victory. As I said, I’d stand with them to remove the gravy from heterosexual marriage. It would be best for us all. And that’s what I want.

 

You said people listed as dependents wouldn't be allowed to vote. College kids supported by their parents, no vote. So, no vote, no draft. Like I said, fight your own war. Consider it the price of social engineering in taking away folks' right to vote.

 

Why don't the impeachment articles cite any specific law? All they say is, "Orangeman Bad".

 

Too funny.

 

Trump is an aberration that we enjoy.

Democrats have *always* used terms like "traitor", "stupid", "dictator" to describe Republicans. Trump is the first Republican to give it back to the Democrats. Reagan and the Bushes were too nice; they were gentlemen. Trump is no gentleman. He gets down in the mud with the Dems on their level and we love it.

 

Too funny ? Not really. The gop is literally operating a crime syndicate now. No evidence, no witnesses and they’ll do what every they can to hide the facts. History isn’t kind to these guys....the history of recessions and criminality.

 

Trump is no aberration. He’s exactly what the GOP has evolved into. Trump the traitor and Moscow Mitch is the Traitor enabler....
Russia is hacking up a storm as we speak to help the white minority apartheid based government hold onto power. Putin leads the most white supremist racist Govt in the world . Why wouldn’t he be a Trump ally ?

 

That’s because the economy is not something you can put on cruise control, walk away and expect everyone to behave themselves. Everyone is about avoiding taxes and gaming the system. It’s an ongoing effort to monitor and adjust. Make no mistake, history has always shown that the liberals know more about a fair economy then conservative “tight ass do nothing but whine gop.” The gop cares nothing about the economy of healthcare for example..it’s too hard !

The gop has always had this ridiculous idea (because they get paid to) that the rich know what they are doing if you hand them more money. It’s a fallacy. The rich know one thing, how to get richer at anyone else’s expense.

 

We have no dealers or specialty shops. It is a fairly typical small town.

 

Lol
Trump is exposing the brand. They’ve always been a minority government trying to hold power at the expense of anyone.

Conservatives in every-other democracy in the world believe
In AGW, universal healthcare and gun control. Yet the gop paints liberals here, who would be conservatives everywhere else, as overly progressive. It’s laughable because dumb asteroid liberals here think they are actually liberal. Ha ha

There is one liberal running for president, Andrew Yang the fact based candidate. The rest are really everyone else’s conservative arguing over everyone else’s scraps while the GOP crime family lies, cheats and steals their way from one election to another.

 

I can’t escape the idea that the reason that most cities are run by Democrats is because the Republican ideology isn’t sophisticated enough to handle the complexities of running a city. The Democratic ideology is better situated to handle changing demographics.

 

And you wonder why I drug out that old study showing republicans are better informed than democrats..

 

When one looks at the historical record, one finds a curious pattern. During the time of Nixon there was a large number of executive branch operatives who were convicted of crimes. During Carter’s term, almost none. Then came Reagan and with him the rise of criminal convictions of people associated with the president. Bush pardoned most of them. Even though the Republican operatives, including cry baby Kavanaugh, tried their best, they could find no wrongdoing in Clinton’s sphere, other than Clinton had liked women who weren’t his wife. Then came little Bush and corruption galore rolled in. Not only was his administration corrupt, but also private contractors, Cheney’s way of hiding activities from congressional oversight, and to siphon federal funds into private pockets. Obama came along and nothing could be found. Obama ran a clean ship and try as they may, the corrupt congressional Republicans could not break his spirit, his resolve, or his honor. Trump was barely elected and his henchmen started to be arrested. Trump, and his administration is going to go down as the most corrupt ever.

The criminal mindset can also be seen in the gerrymandering and voter suppression practiced in red states. Being that over the past twenty years or so, more people have been voting for Democratic candidates than Republican candidates, but Republicans winning more seats. Essentially, the GOP has been stealing power for the past few decades.

In Wisconsin it was like 60% of the people voted for Democratic candidates but only won 40% of the seats in the state legislature and House of Representatives. Obviously the system is rigged. In 2018, Democratic voters broke the 60% limit to gain some seats. The tide seems to be turning.

 

You didn't address what I wrote. Would a system like they have in Switzerland or the Netherlands be something you could support? How about a medical voucher along the lines proposed by former Senator Coburn?

People want medical care they can afford. I think they'd like to have choices, but affordability is key.

People want affordable health care. What's your plan?

I'm asking if you have a plan?

"Purely socialist," as defined by an unknown person, proven to work... what does that mean?

There you go--people will choose to take the benefits.

Marriage will be around as a civil institution long after thee and me have gone for a dirt nap.

 

Production in Norway is collectivized? Nonsense.

 

Fair enough. Military members are allowed to vote, since they are gainfully employed by the government and putting their lives at risk for the country's welfare. No matter what plan somebody comes up with, there will always be valid exceptions.

I also think military members should be able to drink and smoke at 18. Ultimately, I think the age of adulthood should be the drinking, smoking, gun owning, military service, and voting age, whatever that age is. We don't need 2 tiered adulthood.

 

Exactly.