7 Myths about the Challenger Shuttle 1986 Disaster

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many posters may not have been living in 1986 and do not recall the utter unbelievable shock of the loss of a rocket full of men and women. Some think who know of this that the crew died instantly in a so called explosion. So we can chat again about the poor quality of our news media only this time on a scientific mission. Sorry folks the article will not be copied.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11031097/...out-challenger-shuttle-disaster/#.XeiQ0uhKjIU
     
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    None of those are a surprise to me. And have been known for a long time now.

    The problem today is that with YouTube and other online "reporting", it is amazingly simple to get your beliefs spread to a huge number of people. This to me is a large cause for the "dumbing down" of people. I ask somebody to validate their claim, and they throw up a 45 minute video, saying that it says everything they need to know.

    And on the few occasionally I actually tried to watch one, I generally turn it off within a minute or two in disgust. The CT thread thrives on that kind of nonsense.
     
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    msm just can't help themselves, spewing more pointed hatred of the right(gop)...

    was there any other reason to include this tidbit in myth #4?

    this has nothing to do with the story, nor the 'honor' of those that died during that mission...
     
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    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Many components are made in California, the home of the "Powerful Speaker of the House". I have mostly tuned out most media, because they are not even trying to hide their bias anymore.

    And even more disturbing, is that their "Target Audience" (Democrats) are not even bothering to ask why this is of any importance to the topic. I cut through all levels of such crap, and do not care which side it is for or against. If it does not apply, I ignore it then take a good hard look at who is providing that "information".

    And I see the same thing in here all the time. Discuss TOPIC A, and people inject TOPIC B, TOPIC C, and TOPIC Z because they apparently have no common sense or topic filters.
     
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    i'm there also, i refuse to watch news media... if a topic arises i'll search the globe for similar reports/articles, then decide on whether is true/viable... and even then, with the advent of prism and other censorship programs, i still don't trust it as actual fact...

    the advent of the internet & the digital age is an infinite edged sword...
     
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    NASA lied had tried to cover it up
    They knew the O rings were a major risk
     
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    Gelecski7238 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Impatient with the obstacle of another cold mourning adverse to the capacity of the O-rings, "When do we launch, Thiokole?"
     
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    Nice link. But I already knew all of that.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Yea
    h, rather than cover it up they could have just said, OOPS. Works in most industries and in politics.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a timeout until Sunday at the other forum Dayton3.
     
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    It was more that Thiokole could not seem to give a definitive answer as to what the actual lowest operational temperatures were. 18F, 40F, 52F, 54F, it was like every time the engineers were asked what the minimum temperature was they would give a different answer, with no actual evidence to back them up. It was quite literally the case where each time they were asked, the Thiokole engineers gave different answers. And NASA grew increasingly frustrated because they seemed unable to come up with a definitive answer.

    The actual exasperated quote from the SRB Manager Lawrence Mulloy was "My God, Thiokol, when do you want me to launch — next April?"

    The final conference calls between NASA and Thiokole actually had none of the engineers involved. Thiokole management themselves removed them from the decision loop because of their own inability to reach a consensus, and they are the ones that gave NASA the go-ahead using their lowest recommended operating temperatures (18F, over 10F lower then temperatures at the time of launch of 29F).
     
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