South Dakota Bill Would Jail Doctors Who Drug or Perform Surgery on ‘Transgender’ Children

So you favor this law's passage?

 

Subversion and perversion. Nothing less, nothing more.

 

So it’s performed by doctors?

 

A libertarian wouldn’t want the govt to tell people how to raise their kids

 

A Libertarian will throw you under the jail if you cause harm to others.

The primary Libertarian credo is "Freedom (from government) to pursue your own life, liberty and happiness...as long as your freedom does not harm someone else's rights."

"Transitioning" children is child abuse. I can't imagine a more egregious harm to others.

 

No I don’t agree with this treatment for kids. But I’m a big govt liberal

 

So what other parenting decisions do you want the govt making for you?

 

Most ideologues have limits and discover the exception to the rule if they are sane. That goes for libertarians.

Not having a limit or line is a big problem on the modern left . The left that once existed at least was not insane given they would not allow an ideology lead them into total madness.

People on the sane left need to speak up and embrace this common sense law. To protect the kids from an ideology gone absolutely bonkers .

And to protect the parents later on from the kids who are now grown but missing their natural born sex organs.

 

That doesn't make it medical treatment. Medical treatment is putting a cast on a broken leg. Cutting off healthy body parts of children is more akin torture performed in Nazi camps by "Doctor" Josef Mengele.

 

I'm perfectly fine with any laws against permanently disfiguring your physically healthy child.

 

This issue transcends big govt and small govt people.

It is about sanity and insanity. It is about right and wrong. Rational and irrational. It is about sense and nonsense and those parents that would do this to a child are child abusers and unfit to raise children.

This should not be labeled progressive or liberal for it has nothing to do with either .And progressives need to say so and disavow these sick people . And shun these bastards.

 

How is baptism any form of mutilation?

 

Now your just being beligerant..

 

We are literally living in what Heinlein called the "crazy years "

He invented newspaper headlines from a future time that would read like the very real headlines that we see today. Headlines so absurd back when he was writing that they appeared to be crazy due to how unthinkable they were.

The man was a prophet just as Orwell turned out to be.

And I lived to see what they wrote about in the 1930s with all of it happening in my own life time. The unthinkable became modern reality and it seems hardly anyone notices .

Or is concerned about much of it especially what came from Orwell.

 

I hope the anti vaxers don’t adopt that argument.

 

Even the LGB's are splitting out and away from the T's. The LGB group spent years trying to gain acceptance in society and the movement was specifically about biological sex identity, with simply a preference for same-sex as bed partners. The T's are like aliens from another planet, especially to the lesbian community where trans "women" are insisting on being members of their groups. The T's are all about "gender" not matching with biological sex. If gender is whatever your brain wants it to be, then all the work for sexual equality, both LGB's and Women's rights, was for naught.

Teaching children that they "are" whatever sex/gender they think they are is ruffling a lot more feathers than just the "conservative and Christian community".

This woman describes the rift in the LGB v. T community and brings up the potential child-mutilation case of James Younger.

 

Much appreciated.

That you spent so much time/used so many keystrokes/and wasted so much bandwidth responding to an anonymous "internet person".

Your dedication is that truly "impressive".

As always, I find myself flattered by the meticulous attention that you have devoted (and continue to devote) to every keystroke of my posting history.
^And, I mean that (sincerely).

As far as the ON-Topic portion (of your post):

I do feel that you have made many salient points regarding the potential "negatives" of starting the process of gender reassignment at such a young age.

Carry on, and (as always) I hope that you continue to find the time you spend at Pf to be an intellectually enriching experience.

 

They're as good as outlawed here, because few doctors will perform them.

 

Genital mutilation is not a 'parenting decision'. It's an extremely worrying new brand of paedophilia, and clear child abuse.

 

When it involves any form of physical alteration.

 

Kind of like calling an abortion of convenience "health care".

 

My sister is gay (as are two cousins) and she wants nothing to do with the T people. She says there's a big difference between who you're attracted to and disagreeing with your anatomy. She also said if the Ts didn't glom onto the LGBs, then the LGBs would get all the attention leaving the Ts high and dry, so the Ts, in order to be relevant, attach themselves to the LGBs even though they're worlds apart.

 

The government's job is to protect its citizens. In the case of kids, that means the parents need to feed them, educate them and keep them healthy. The insanely high suicide rate of the Ts should tell us all we need to know - it's not physical, it's mental.

 

Good for her. I stand firmly with her, and the TERFs (Trans exclusive radical feminists) - despite not being a feminist.

 

Well, I don't know how we quickly went from the DSM defining gender dysphoria as a mental disorder to teaching children not only that it's "normal", but actively encouraging it and making it "trendy". That happened fast.