Let's say Trump is re-elected this year....

Trump is not removed from office. Tuesday November 3, 2020 comes along and Trump is re-elected both Electorally AND with the popular vote by 3 million votes. Dems keep the HoR and take the Senate by a simple majority.

What will the Democratic Party do?

Will they work with President Trump? Remember, they wont' be able to pass any laws with their simple majority if Trump decides to use his veto power. So..will they try and work with Trump? Or will they continue to try and remove him any way possible?

 

The Dems will crap their pants when Trump declares martial law.

 

I would say the dems keeping any branch of government is pretty slim. The American people are sick of their antics.

 

I am not in favor of removal 'in any way possible' He has to do something worthy of impeachment, but we know he will. He does nothing but get more arrogant, more petty, more vindictive, and more autocratic with each 'victory'. If he gets re-elected, I view it as a patrotic duty to oppose him at virtually every turn, because of the GOP voters and trumpsters get rewarded for what putting this amoral sleeze, and racist scum, then all we will be doing is validating his tactics, his lies, his deceit, his bullying, his lawbreaking, and his viciousness, and that in turn will produce more of the same in every politician that comes after him. Nope obstruction is our patriotic duty. he cannot be allowed any political victories that we can stop.

 

Given their insistence that the EC elected Trump and not The People, it will be interesting to see if they change their tune when he gets the popular vote too this Nov.

And by that, I mean it'll be interesting to see how the American people will react when they don't change their tune, because we know they won't.

They'll just keep screaming 'Russia!' and alienate even more voters.

 

What if he proposes something that you are in favor of? Will you still sing this tune? Will you still obstruct it in order to not give him any political victories?

 

Why would he do that? There is no reason to.

 

You vastly overrate the intelligence of the American people. Remember, they elected Obama - twice.

 

No, the Democrats will NOT work with Trump. They will do everything possible to sabotage America in order to position themselves for the 22' and 24' elections. The Democrats haven't the slightest interest in improving the lives of average Americans. Their only interest is their own power and wealth.

 

Trump is getting himself removed from office, dont blame the democratic party for him being a buffoon.

If that happens, I imagine no worse then what the conservatives did to America when Obama was in office.

 

There was an article in the Harvard Law Review that proposed a means by which the EC could be removed and replaced by a direct vote for the presidency and yes, it could begin under the scenario proposed by the EP.

https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21063...n-democracy-pack-the-union-harvard-law-review

Original HLR paper link.

https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/1049-1070_Online.pdf

The concept being that by packing Congress with newly formed states they achieve the ability to override any and all objections by the IMPOTUS.

By following the EXACT WORDING in the Constitution the SCOTUS cannot declare any of it unconstitutional.

The kicker being that at the end of this process Amendments are passed that effectively negate the EC and make everyone's vote count equally. The Senate becomes just an affirmative function without any actually legislative ability and ALL subsequent changes to the Constitution can only be made with a MAJORITY of the electorate agreeing to them which would prevent any rollback of these changes.

The end result is EQUAL representation in the House and Senate for ALL of We the People and DIRECT election of the POTUS.

It is ALL legal and constitutional and is ratified by the requisite 2/3rds of the states.

We the People would then have a duly elected government representing US instead of the special interests.

 

Shouldn't All Americans feel the same way ?

 

He won't do it sincerely. If it is a locked in 'deal of a lifetime', impacting the lives of hundreds of thousands of our most vulnerable, in nothing but the most positive of ways, it would be very difficult not to accept it, but we have to be negotiating with the republicans in Congress not with this president who does not keep his word. He draws people in with promises that 48 hours later, he has no intention of ever keeping. He deceives and self sabotages in the most brazen way, simply to get a pyric superficial victory for the cameras . Its almost impossible to imagine a more cynical, destructive force at a negotiating table. Remember to Donald, its never about a tangible result, its about a reality show perception of a tangible result. He actually prefers to screw people like Schumer or Pelosi out of pure pettiness, and then declare a victory over political opponents that he can orchestrate, than he cares about those vulnerable people to which I referred. An incredibly shallow man.

What Dems have to do, is virtually ignore him and negotiate ONLY with the republicans in the House and Senate. Despite that rabid hyper-partisan atmosphere, most of these guys are Washington pros of many years, who know that their capacity to do a deal later that has an impact, depends on having a reputation of not overly politicizing the last compromise deal as a partisan victory. They intend to hang around for a lot longer than 4 years. Its Mitch and McCarthy who we make 'do the deal' with Trump. Let them take the political risk of committing in public, only to be tossed overboard when Trump hears from Sean Hannity and Steve Bannon and reneges. Make Trump's impulsive mercurial nature their problem to solve.

But it all leaves us in exactly the same place. Nowhere. They cannot get the guy to understand and retain what is in the bill they are proposing as a compromise, and why it needed to be in there, longer than it takes for some bomb thrower in the alt right camp to blow up everything on Fox News.

 

Where will he declare martial law for?

 

It really is amazing that you think he is that bad.

 

McConnell is holding up bills from the House it seems the Senate is the blockage to what people want in legislation for marijuana reform.

 

Trump will Easily win re election.

 

Illegal aliens and dead people voting elected obama.

 

Lets see, repeal and replace? DACA? immigration reform? Mitch McConnell inevitably ended up with egg all over his face, when he thought he had the beginnings of a deal and a smattering of republicans coming out tentatively in support of a compromise in principle, only to have Trump publicly change his stance so he could get more for nothing.
The guy is an idiot.

 

I would simply say the more shat that flies the better, because more AmeriCAN's will get woke against the AmeriCANT's.

 

Welcome to the forum.

BTW: The House Democrats just approved the USMCA. So much for the theory that they will NOT work with Trump.

Looking at the Tea Party House Republicans when Obama was in office, they'd been rather caught dead than vote for ANYTHING in the Dems favor.

 

When they have bet as much as they have on the campaign to paint him evil, I doubt they will be able to let go of the hate and bias and actually try to work together. I think they have screwed themselves in a way that will stick to them like super-glue for decades.

I once was asked to give a personal development talk to a bunch of kids at a reform school. Talking sense to today's dems has about the same odds of success.

 

I am amazed you think this guy gives a rat's ass about anyone besides himself, his image and those of his family. He really does not care if he does a good job, at least not enough to read a position paper, or listen to advisors, or stick with a proposal long enough to see it through and be willing to sacrifice anything to get it through. .

 

Your march toward a Socialist / Globalist utopia is, in itself, Un American.

 

In 5 more years.....you can remove him from office. It won't happen before then.