The NIST 9/11 Scam Exposed in All Its Glory

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  1. Bob0627

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    'Europhysics News' Article on WTC Demolitions Surpasses One Million Views

    Could it be the most widely read scientific article of all time?

    That question is difficult to answer because science and engineering publications do not typically share reader statistics.

    What we can say for sure, though, is that “15 years later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses” — the five-page feature in the August 2016 issue of the European Physical Society’s Europhysics News by Dr. Steven Jones, Dr. Robert Korol, engineer Tony Szamboti, and AE911Truth’s Ted Walter — has been read, and continues to be read, by a massive number of people.

    This past September, according to the metrics on EurophysicsNews.org, the article surpassed a remarkable one million views since being published three years earlier. More than half of those views have come since the end of 2016, with the article racking up at least 10,000 downloads per month for 36 straight months after first going viral in September 2016.

    The article’s soaring popularity should come as no surprise. It authoritatively lays waste to the official account of the World Trade Center’s destruction — the most blatant and consequential scientific fraud ever perpetrated on the world. It is also one of the few times that a reputable scientific organization has had the courage and integrity to provide a forum for the issue.

    Three and a half years after its publication, we at AE911Truth strongly encourage advocates of 9/11 Truth to continue using this landmark article as a tool for raising awareness.

    Go to “15 years later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses.”


    https://www.ae911truth.org/news/640...n-wtc-demolitions-surpasses-one-million-views
     
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    It is simply impossible that asymmetric jet collisions effectively imploded the twin towers symmetrically onto their own foundations - not to mention WTC 7.

    But it doesn’t stop there! We’re also supposed to believe that either a drone or cruise missile debris field is that of a Boeing jet at the Pentagon and an unidentifiable debris field in PA was also a Boeing jet.

    Yet many, many, many folks with plenty sufficient education and or experience to at least go hmmm, choose to disregard these blatant contradictions. I think perhaps because the implications are quite literally even more unimaginable.

    The Gulf of Tonkin boys must be feeling schooled. JFK’s killers are still all like, yeah, whatever. Wait, those would be the same guys, eh?
     
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    what are asymmetric jet collisions? ...
     
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    The adjective is not necessary other than to contrast the bogus cause with the actual result.

    The collapse was surely not perfectly symmetrical, but very close. The top of the building didn’t crunch down toward the corner of impact and then fall over onto the building across the street, for example.

    There was no pancake type of collapse. There is simply no possible mechanism for these three buildings to implode as they did other than a brilliantly controlled demolition.
     
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    Correct. Common sense alone dictates that the only mechanism that can duplicate a perfectly planned and executed controlled demolition is a perfectly planned and executed controlled demolition. No other mechanism on earth can do that, not planes, damage, fire or any combination, not even an earthquake. Science is a more accurate judge and no experiment, no computer model, no natural event has ever occurred or can be created to duplicate a perfectly planned and executed controlled demolition other than a perfectly planned and executed controlled demolition. That works every single time because a poorly planned and/or executed controlled demolition can't duplicate what happened to those 3 towers on 9/11.
     
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    Yet we both more than likely have classmates calling us tinfoil hat / black helicopter dweebs.....

    it is ludicrous!
     
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    I only wish I had classmates, that was about 5 decades ago lol. But I agree there are people my age who still act like schoolchildren and only know how to use name calling as their best argument. And that's why they bought the official conspiracy 9/11 theory hook, line and sinker, childish mentality.
     
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    Not to worry. As time marches on, it becomes painfully apparent that event after event moves from conspiracy theory to conspiracy fact.

    Those in denial are not aware of it, but time and truth march on.
     
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    you didn't answer my question ... what are asymmetrical jet collisions? ... your words ... not mine...
     
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    Apologies, it wasn’t clear to me the meaning of your question.

    Asymmetric jet collisions <> symmetric modern steel skyscraper implosion.
     
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    still a non answer ... please explain asymmetric jet collisions ...
     
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    Do you have access to a dictionary? They are really handy tools!
     
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    You demonstrate the MO of all that have swallowed the Official Conspiracy Theory ...... you nit-pick irrelevances to try and disprove the point. Such people always lose the plot because they do not have scientific knowledge to understand the sciences behind the picture their eyes see, so they will believe the impossible!

    An example of symmetrical and asymmetrical:

    The structural parts that make up a real-world object such as the WTC Towers are not located exactly at the object’s centre but are close enough and symmetrical enough that the effects of their small deviations from the centre on either side cancel each other out.

    In other words a material balance around a central line, the structures either side will be almost mirror images, i.e. symmetrical about the vertical centre line.

    This can never be so with the collision of an aircraft with a solid object! As it strikes one side it will expend a lot of energy and decelerate, thus causing asymmetrical damage. Viewed at 90 deg. to the line of flight, travelling left to right, the left side will sustain different and greater damage to that on the right side. It creates an asymmetry around the vertical centre line of the gravitational load of the structure. It is 'out of balance'!

    Sir Isaac Newton’s accepted Laws of Motion says that an object falling simply due to gravity alone will take the course of least resistance to the opposing force to gravity. In the case of all the three WTC buildings, that means the weaker part of the building due to impact damage and office fires.......... this is not a symmetrical distribution of the building loads, the result being that the building will topple. The uninterrupted collapse, almost straight down and at near free fall acceleration is therefore physically not possible ....... that is ...........

    Unless, of course, you accept the NIST Theory that fires were such that they diverted the forces described by Newton, to rebalance the load to achieve a symmetrical balance of the gravitational load? If you look at the collapse of all three buildings the similarity between what the videos all show in each collapse is remarkably similar to a well controlled demolition ...........

    So either NIST have discovered a completely unique way to demolish high rise steel frame buildings using precisely controlled, pre-determined aircraft impact and a method whereby the minute temperature control and distribution of burning office fires, to achieve what all the videos show, with exactly the same precision and all on a time line of milliseconds ........... or they are lying!

    I’ll go for the latter as the counter argument complies with the Laws of Physics and NIST’s explanation does not! :buggered:
     
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    Please elaborate your question. I assume you understand the meaning, concept, connotation and denotation of jet, collision and asymmetric. So what exactly is your question?
     
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    it's a pretty simple question ... please define what an asymmetrical jet collision is ... this question has nothing to do with the collapses of the towers ...

    once again, what is an asymmetrical jet collision? ...
     
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    Since I used these three words in a sentence specifically about the amazing near perfect free fall collapse of these three buildings onto their own foundations, I will have to respectfully disagree that your question has nothing to do with the "collapses of the towers".

    Asymmetric jet collisions means that each of the twin towers was impacted by a jet collision off center on one side of the structure. Here's a question for you that may be educational to your understanding of my phrase, "asymmetric jet collisions": what do you understand a symmetric jet collision would have been that would explain what is otherwise an obviously perfectly controlled implosion? Four jets impacting dead center on each face of WTC 1 & 2?

    I asked you in good faith to explain which part of the phrase "asymmetric jet collisions" you seem not to understand and you refused to elaborate your question.

    Also, it is unclear to me that you have any appreciation of how forums work.

    Apparently I need to reference here in my own response the rather excellent and detailed explanation provided to you by ProVox?
     
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    Unfortunately the current Covid 19 news takes center stage. However, we still can't let the realities of 9/11 be swept under the rug.

    Help Spread the UAF Report Widely and Take the Fight to NIST
    Richard Gage, AIA
    March 12, 2020

    Dear Friends,

    In less than two weeks, the final report of the University of Alaska Fairbanks study on World Trade Center Building 7 by Dr. Leroy Hulsey will be released!


    https://www.ae911truth.org/news/652-help-spread-the-uaf-report-widely-and-take-the-fight-to-nist

    I won't post the rest as it may violate the rules of the forum so read it for yourself.

    In any case, peer review is just a starting point. It is a scientific consensus which can be challenged at any time. Its predecessor is NIST's official conclusion(s) on WTC7 which is being challenged by Dr. Hulsey's final report. To re-iterate, NIST's reports have never been peer reviewed nor can they ever be because NIST refused to release all their models and data under pretext of endangering public safety.
     
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    Interesting isn't it? An infection of less than 200,000 people with less than 5,000 deaths and life as we know it is being brought to a halt. Orwell himself would be astounded, maybe, eh?
     
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    Except if this were 1918 (where an estimated 50 million people died from the flu pandemic), this could be on that level. Viral Infections can spread exponentially and now I'm hearing there are lasting effects for people who recover from this virus. It's too early to determine permanent effects, such as lung damage. Don't underestimate this pandemic, it is highly contagious and potentially lethal. 9/11 was the pretext used to cause the death and other damage to well over 1 million people and is still being used to commit genocide and other human rights atrocities. In a genuine world, the $billions being used to fund permanent war should immediately be diverted to try to curtail this virus and help people affected by it.
     
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    I am not arguing that it is not a nasty virus and I have also seen some info that suggests that even if you catch it and recover from it you will have permanent lung damage - if it is able to progress in you beyond a mild infection. However, for the WHO to declare it a pandemic seems, uh, I don't know, just kinda off base to me given the numbers being reported. Furthermore that if you're under 30 it is apparently of almost no concern.

    Ugh - the 19 teens. And we think we have challenges today. Horrid stuff. WWI - The Great War, The Great Pandemic. It's a wonder Tolkien didn't include it in the LOTR.

    An interesting thing I just now learned is that the 'Spanish' flu misnomer was the result of a conspiracy fact, and that in the Spring of 1918 it was apparently just a later than usual outbreak of slightly worse than normal flu, but reoccurred in the Fall of 1918 as a wicked death sentence.

    https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence

    I saw that Stephen King released a statement more or less telling folks this ain't no Captain Trips. I thought that was amusing. What an awesome read that was for me! Trash bringing the nuke to Vegas. The miniseries was excellent. Possibly the best adaptation of King Evah!

    It ain't no Logan's Run either, but that would be a more apt description, with the age shifted from 30 to 79 and the mortality only 20% instead of 100%.

    Apologies, I've jacked this thread and it is a massively serious topic. Once one realizes there is no way WTC 1, 2 & 7 collapsed other than per a controlled demolition mechanism the implications are, for me, beyond unimaginable.
     
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    excellent post .... so many awesome references ... I'm being serious btw ... cheers ...
     
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    Agreed. And the final peer reviewed UAF report will scientifically confirm that the only possible way WTC7 was destroyed in the manner seen on multiple videos was to remove all the columns nearly simultaneously. No fire on earth can do that but a controlled demolition surely can.
     
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    We saw things on 911 that will never happen again without control demolition .

    The nist scam reminds me of project blue book. A scam inquiry with the conclusions formed before the inquiry. .

    Not like we havr hahave not seen conspiracies before involving evil rulers that may as well be satanic

    Nothing about 911 looks legit. A govt that gave us the nist report is fascism .
     
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    we've already seen it ... but keep running with the non evidence of your CD fantasy ...

    UFOs? ... really? ...

    *ominous music playing*

    really ? ... nothing at all ? ...

    get a dictionary and look up fascism ... we're getting closer but not quite there yet never mind 19-20 years ago ...
     
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    Yet in post #399 you said it was an excellent post in response to the claim that there is no way the towers could have collapsed other than with a controlled demolition. Are you confused? The evidence for a controlled demolition is overwhelming or in legal terms, dispositive. Yet there is not one shred of evidence or proof that the 3 towers globally "collapsed" as a result of planes, damage, fire or any combination or anything other than controlled demolition. A great deal of the evidence, science, logic and plain common sense is fully detailed in this thread and many others in this section of the forum.

    Someone who doesn't understand and/or refuses to accept the most obvious conclusion that the 3 towers were taken down via controlled demolition will never understand or recognize fascism. It doesn't need to be concentration camps and crematoriums to be fascism, although 2.3 million people incarcerated and another 5+ million on probation and parole, most for invented "crimes" and mass surveillance, among many other factors has similar qualities.
     
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