McConnell lays out rules for Trump's Senate trial, allowing for vote on witnesses, documents

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet Chuckie-Boy Schumer said on the floor of the Senate
    not even 2 hours ago How Trump committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
    There are two things going on here.
    One is that the Democrats are banking on how the Press will
    listen and take seriously their Lies and write articles accordingly.
    Banking on how the Populace will read and take seriously.
    And Most Importantly concerning Fairness.That applies to the Defendant.
    That the Defendant { Trump } is treated fairly ... NOT the Prosecutors
    or the Witnesses'.That a Defendant should be guaranteed fairness
    as far as a speedy trial and also Jury selection.
    That basic approach in Due Process according to Trial by Jury
    or a Political Trial holds the same.But these Pig Scum Democrats
    are acting as if that's a foreign notion.Forgetting that the Defendant in
    this Impeachment is Our President,
     
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    I'd like to hear that under oath from Schiff himself.
     
  3. Egoboy

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    Well, after this trial, perhaps the Senate should subpoena him... then he can not show based on House Manager Privilege...
     
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    As an initial matter, I was asking her to provide a legal citation for the claim that Judge Roberts would just dismiss the case for lack of "Standing," so pay attention next time.

    In regards to your point, there is no conflict - notwithstanding the "independentsentinel.com" conclusion to the contrary.

    The only issue that you appear to be referencing from her opening statement is "neither he nor the previous administration ever raised the issue of either Burisma or Hunter Biden with me" and the only semblance of a conflict was the instruction to her during the Senate Confirmation hearing that she should answer any questions about either by saying, "I do not know, you should talk to Joe Biden."

    That is not a conflict and certainly not enough to qualify as perjury.
     
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    The GOP called three witnesses during the House Intelligence Committee Hearings.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    (Source: The Constitution in Operation)

    The reality is that in directing national policy:

    CON5.jpg
     
  7. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like this Schiff { pencil-neck } would even know how to be
    " himself ". Probably hasn't been himself since the Night Trump
    won the Presidency.
     
  8. MrTLegal

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    No clue, but you raise another source from which you can learn the definition - the House Report on the Articles of Impeachment.
     
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    There is nothing here about Justice Roberts dismissing the Impeachment Articles for lack of standing.
     
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    Looks like the Push back has already resulted in a change.

    JUST IN: Each side will get 24 hours over 3 days for opening arguments

    From CNN's Ted Barrett, Phil Mattingly and Manu Raju

    In a significant change that was quietly made to Sen. Mitch McConnell's resolution, there are now three days of opening arguments over 24 hours. The initial language had just two days. McConnell's office confirms they made the change.

    These changes just occurred prior to the start of the trial. There are also changes to the evidence section – evidence will be admitted unless there is a vote in opposition to it.

    There were Republican senators who had issues with McConnell’s resolution, according to sources familiar. These last minute changes were meant to address those issues.
     
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    The current MSNBC crawl say the McConnell rules have changed significantly today..

    3 days each, not 2 days each... House evidence imported up front...

    Any word?
     
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    Never mind... TY
     
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    Were they Witnesses the House Republicans named and wanted
    called.? Or were they ones Democrats wanted called and Devon
    Nunes was left with no other options but to use { call }.
     
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    I presented a reason why he could rule that the articles have a lack of standing...

    Pull your head out and read it.....
     
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    Why didn't the House Democrats subpoena Bolton if they felt
    he was so instrumental.They subpoena'd Bolton's Deputy { Kupperman }
    who used Executive Priviledge.The Court's had to think it over.
     
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    Because Bolton said he would adhere to a Kupperman decision and wouldn't testify outside of one... There was no need...

    If Bolton wanted to testify, the offer was made to come voluntarily....

    Kupperman didn't use EP, BTW.... he filed a lawsuit instead...
     
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    Having just listened to MSNBC { The place to go when needing to
    find out how to Lie and shoot dirty Pool } I kinda know what's going to
    happen.The Press and those like haters at MSNBC { contributors } are
    gonna Feed the Audience is this.
    That The Trump Team of Lawyers are ALL about Procedure and
    Not Facts.
    As if The House Democrat Mngrs. like Adam Schiff are about facts.
    Almost the exact opposite of what is True and knowable.
    meaning you are gonna watch what happens in this Senate Trial
    and be told something different.Just like Muellers Special Counsel.
    Just like how Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell insisted every other week
    They had Obvious,proveable *facts regarding Trump's Russian Collusion,.
    Those facts never came to view because they never existed.


    * or Evidence
     
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    No, it wasn’t. That was easy!
     
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    Who cares.

    Democrats will go on TV and cry every day unless they get Trump tied to a stake.

    Time to just let them scream themselves hoarse.
     
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    I want to see all the same documents and testimony that congress sees, because I don't trust any of them. If I can't see the evidense, then afaic, they're hiding it because they're judging based on agenda instead of facts. That goes for the House and the Senate.

    The House could've made all the evidense they sent to the Senate public beforehand. They didn't, probably because it doesn't doom Trump to the extent that they claim. The Senate is unlikely to make everything public either, because they want to be able convict or not as a partisan issue, depending on which they think is more likely to result in getting themselvesre-elected.

    This is precisely why partisan impeachment doesnt work. Afaic, this is a show on both sides just going through the motions.

    This impeachment died long ago when only dems would support its continuance, just as its most vocal proponents are on record explaining that it would do months or even years ago.
     
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    Again, that is not a justification for the claim that Justice Roberts can dismiss the articles of impeachment for lack of "standing."
     
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    LOL, don't worry you will see the evidence, one way or another.
     
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    Yes, he is making money off of his golf outings.
     
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    Sounds like you already acquited Trump before he took office.
     
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    And the left convicted him before he took office. I think there was about 8 "We got him now him" moments since the day he walked into the Oval office.
     

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