Biden: DACA recipients are “more American than most Americans are”

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    I never said permanently legal. Not my fault you see words that aren’t there.
    If they’re treated as someone with a visa, that makes them legal lol
     
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    That is the plan. Voting will be open nationally to residents. Citizenship is an anachronism per the left.
     
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    I wonder if Biden considers that Hispanic Beto to be a DACA dude.
     
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    So be it. Just please keep posting crap about Biden. As long as he is your focus, the better off we all will be in the long run.
     
  5. FreshAir

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    if he did not say "some", that is a horrible gaffe, he did say "in many cases", but people will focus on the rest of the statement, that is why I do not think Biden will win the primary, way too many stupid gaffes

    Presidents words have consequences, we can't have a President that constantly lies like Trump, and we can't have a President that has so many Gaffes like Biden

    it's a lot like Trump's 'very fine people' on both sides comment when someone just dies at the hands of white nationalists and they were chanting "blood and soil, Jews will not replace us", Presidents have to choose their words carefully
     
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    Illegally by executive order, which because of the "tragedy" of them being here, the Court now wants to try to eat its cake and have it to: By declaring that ONE fiat order is perfectly fine, while the other order is illegal. ROFL.

    This will be the case that invalidates the Court politically, as both sides see the Court has long outlived its usefulness to settle political disputes between the parties.
     
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    Dirty Joe is a joke. :roll:
     
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    They are definitely more American than Joe Biden is. All they need to do is apply for citizenship the right way and they'll be a shoe in!
     
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    We don't want open borders, we're just saying that any foreigner who comes in America is more american than Americans. Can't you guys know the difference?
     
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    then they can attack gold star families and war heroes like our President I suppose
     
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    Oh are those families immune from criticism regardless of the positions they take? If so..... the Dems should get a Presidential Candidate from that pool so they can't be impeached as the new trend dictates.
     
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    DACA recipients entered the country illegally, although they had no choice as the parents bought them.
    Obama then ignored the law and allowed them to be temporarily shielded from deportation, hence the deferred part of DACA. It's not a path to citizenship it only allows them to stay temporarily.
    The parents have no such protection and will be deported taking their children with them, even though the children have DACA protection because, as the democrats keep saying "We need to keep the families together".
     
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    You're talking about Trump supporters.
     
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    Nope, I'm talking about liberals. Trump supporters defend the Constitution. Liberals hate the document and wish to do away with it completely. It gets in the way of their Marxist pipe dream. This is NOT an all inclusive list by any means, but merely offers up a few examples of how they reject the whole document:

    ** They reject the limits on the legislative powers of Congress. (thus rejecting Article I)

    ** They reject the executive powers of the President if they happen to not like the President, and they reject the Electoral College. They reject the proper method and reasoning for removing a President from office. They reject the enumerated duties of a President, especially the duties of preserving/defending/protecting the US Constitution. (thus rejecting Article II)

    ** They reject the scope and role of SCOTUS and other inferior courts. They believe that SCOTUS are the sole interpreters of the US Constitution. They believe that SCOTUS are oligarchs. (thus rejecting Article III)

    ** They reject the Republican form of government that is guaranteed to the States. They reject protecting the States from invasions and domestic violence (especially when relating to immigration). (thus rejecting Article IV)

    ** They reject the formal amendment process, and instead regularly misuse the court system as a "work-around" to that. They wish to transform the USA into the SOA (Socialist Oligarchy of America). (thus rejecting Article V)

    ** They reject legislating in pursuance of the US Constitution. (thus rejecting Article VI)

    ** They reject that the States (collectively) are the owners of the US Constitution. (thus rejecting Article VII)

    ** They also reject many of the Amendments to the Constitution, and actively fight against people's inherent rights (such as the right to have and express an opinion, freedom of religion, right to keep and bear arms, due process, etc...)


    So, as you can see, liberals reject the whole works. It gets in their way. They hate the document. They hate America.
     
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    Literally nothing you wrote is true. Not one single sentence.

    You may believe it to be true, due to your hatred of those who don’t agree with you, but none of it is true.
     
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    You never said temporarily legal either.

    Not my fault that you chose to use imprecise language.

    No it doesn't. Becoming a citizen is what makes one legal. DACA just means that we are temporarily choosing not to follow through with deporting them (even allowing them to work here as if they went through the legal channels and had gotten a work visa). They are still illegals. DACA has not changed that.
     
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    I’m sorry you read words that were not there.
    And there are tens of millions of illegal immigrants who are not citizens, what a laughable assertion
     
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    Never forget, Trump was willing to give them amnesty in exchange for wall funds.
    Another problem the democrats are at fault for
     
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    Argument of the Stone Fallacy. (dismissing an argument without providing any counterargument)

    It IS true. I have been on this forum for a short while (as well as other forums before this one) and have personally seen all of those positions taken by liberals on all the forums I have participated in. How else do you think I would have compiled such a list?

    This is known in logic as an Inversion Fallacy. An Inversion Fallacy is also known in more colloquial terms as "projection". You are attempting to take what applies to yourself and apply it to somebody else.

    Yes it is.
     
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    I'm sorry you use imprecise language. Perhaps you were speaking Liberal? I'm not fluent in Liberal. I am only fluent in English.

    ALL illegal immigrants are not citizens, by definition.

    Nothing laughable about it.
     
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    Now that time I messed up...
    I meant there are tens of millions of LEGAL immigrants who are not citizens....and that includes DACA recipients
     
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    I have ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and Desert Shield. I have ancestors that were Abolitionists. My mom grew up in Alabama and marched in Civil Rights events. How the **** is anyone that is 1st Generation here, "more American"? There are millions more just like me.
     
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    Biden: DACA recipients are “more American than most Americans are”

    Good, then I suppose DACA recipients won’t mind paying my American tax bill that is due April 15th.
     
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    Oh well, it happens... ;)

    Nope. There is no such thing. In order to be an immigrant, one must first be a citizen.

    Nope. DACA recipients are not citizens. They are not immigrants. They are not Americans. They are illegals who we have (stupidly) temporarily decided to not deport.
     
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    You could not be more wrong. Are you telling me a permanent resident (green card holder) is not an immigrant since they aren’t citizens?
     
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