trump renigs on campaign promise. Targets entitlements

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  1. Jimbo11

    Jimbo11 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone knew that the budget breaking tax break for the wealthy would balloon the budget. Now...as they always do....the GOP blames entitlements. The GDP did not top 4 percent ad trump claimed.

    Let the poor people pay for the tax cut for the rich. Same old GOP tune....
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How has Trump helped you?
     
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    This is a policy decided on under obama. Try again.
     
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    Ha! If re elected no one will stop him. Screw the old and poor....
     
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    Jimbo11 Well-Known Member

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    Link....Obama never threatened to cut SS or Medicare....trump lies like he breathes
     
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    Do you think he can change SS or Medicare, which people paid THEIR hard earned money into, with mere executive orders?

    I don't think so. Nope, I don't hardly think so.
     
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    The tax revenue went up with that "budget breaking tax beak for the wealthy". The problem was not the tax cut. The problem was spending too much money including the entitlements.
     
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    Any changes to Social Security or Medicare would have to pass Congress first. It's not up to the president.
     
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    LOL! obama did things under the table. He lied.
     
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    I certainly hope he's targeting entitlements. Most of us have no problem giving people in genuine need a hand-up, but the dems have been giving food stamps and welfare and a variety of freebies to people who have no intention of standing on their own feet, and doing that for years- making people dependent, stealing their self-respect, trying to turn them into drones totally addicted to socialism and the hand-outs they think will control people minds- and votes.
    Go get'em Trump. Help these people become men again- Make America Great Again!
     
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    he did not renege, he helped African Americans have the lowest unemployment.
     
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    Seniors were straight up raped by Obongo with his QE 1 2 3 4..... CD's paying 1%....way less than the inflation rate....and you have the gall to talk about Trump? Jeez
     
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    Because it isn't welfare. They take my money with the promise of giving me a pension when i retire and helping with medical bills. Doesn't matter if I'm making min wage working 10 hours a week, am a billionaire CEO or somewhere in between. They take the money regardless and make that promise to all. Create an opt out to those programs and we can talk about testing.
     
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    By keeping them out of work so long they fell off the labor rolls? lol
     
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    Your loyalty to the Democratic Party is greater than your loyalty to poor and working-class Americans. Why is that?
     
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    Good point.
     
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    How much money did they waste over their lifetime on smoking, drinking, drugs, gambling, designer clothes, and unnecessary luxury items instead of saving and investing for their future?

    Inquiring minds want to know.
     
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    Everything is free!

    Sums up the Democrat party policy nicely.
     
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    according to urban dictionary:
    "the correct definition is for RENEGING, as in to re-negotiate a deal, or back out.

    there is no definition for that incorrect spelling, because it's racist and used incorrectly to imply it's something a black person always does, yes, people of all races do bad things, surprise surprise."
     
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    He’ll say anything and you can’t believe anything he says. It’s too bad his supporters know that to be true and remain supporters. I can’t fathom living in that mind space.
     
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    And everyone of them is in Demographic death throes because there aren't enough people entering the work force every year to offset new retirees. Add to that legacy companies are almost the only employers so the youth unemployment rate is relatively high and you've a disaster in the making.
     
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    We do quite nicely on our 1600 a month but then most of our stuff is paid for, we aren't financing a mc mansion, buying a new Mercedes every two years or other things. We simply chose as much as possible to live within our means.
     
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    Nope that was Obama.
     
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    that would be true if poor people actually paid tax.

    I got my "crumbs" and I appreciated them.
     
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    No, it is a BS point, 557, and you are a smart guy, so you know it.

    It is a BS point, because the <1% interest rate was set by the Fed to fight deflation (if the Fed can actually affect long term interest rates, which is debatable, my view is that the low interest rate was close to the market rate, due to too much capital in hunt for too few qualified borrowers).

    Second, QE was a central bank tool to fight off deflation. Debt deflation had NOTHING to do with Obama, but was brought to us thanks to the great recession, which happened under GWB's watch.

    We need to continue to make these points because more and more it is forgotten that the great recession WAS NOT Obama's making, he was just unlucky to inherit it.
     

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