Why aren't Crooked Donald's lawyers contesting the facts?

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet still no evidence of the narrative.
     
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    They rushed to trail ? Must be a speeding thing.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Guilty does not imply a crime. Guilt implies any breach of conduct. You could be guilty of cheating on a test. That’s not a crime, but it’s still a punishable act.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump requested an investigation and he temporarily froze the funds. The investigation didn't happen and the aid was released 3 weeks before the deadline. Everything else is assumption and speculation.

    ....and you're still yelling.
     
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    Interesting narrative of Democrats. Sounds like they’ll be around long after the corps of dead repugnants have died and festered.
    No, he didn’t request an investigation. He requested a statement under penalty of loss of funds, and both are crimes, bribery and breach of contract with the govt of the US.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why didn't his supervisors think it was serious enough to take immediate action? Vindman is an outspoken anti-American partisan in a uniform.

    Most of the House Democrat "witnesses" were loyal to their old boss, Obama, and were resistant to changing to Trump's nationalist foreign policy. They're just disgruntled employees who didn't like the new boss. All their testimony was heavily biased against Trump.

    https://therightscoop.com/do-not-le...served-with-schiff-witness-alexander-vindman/

    ....and you're still yelling.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He requested that the investigation which was closed during the Obama administration be reopened. The House Dems' witnesses also said that he was demanding Zelensky make a public statement that Ukraine would reopen the investigation which would have included Burisma. Not exactly the crime of the century, since Zelensky complied with neither of Trump's requests and received the aid 3 weeks before it was due.

    The worst reprimand any of this deserves would be a censure, if anything.
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've just provided an example of the kind of despicable, unfounded, character assassination the WB would face if House Dems allowed his/her identity to become publicly known. Have you no shame?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you don't call 3 years of daily conspiracy theories and derision against a sitting president a character assassination? No, I'm sure you think Trump "deserves it"....but that any Democrats playing hard-ball politics are heroic angels. :rolleyes:

    Meanwhile, back in reality, half of Americans want to know how this overreaching and completely partisan impeachment plot to overthrow the duly elected President got hatched.

    Have these swamp creatures no shame? That's a rhetorical question. We know the answer.

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    I agree that the Dems should be LEVERAGING Roberts to their advantage because there is no doubt that he will be interviewed afterwards as to his opinion regarding the guilt of the criminal IMPOTUS.
     
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    Tiresome STRAWMAN non sequitur drivel duly noted and IGNORED for derogatory reasons!
     
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    No evidence that criminal IMPOTUS supporters have any connection with REALITY.
     
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    You are still in abject DENIAL but that is your problem, not mine!
     
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    Absurdist magical thinking denialism!
     
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    I put him lying in the wrong place. It doesn't change anything I said. Do you know what a fussbudget is?
     
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    No question that Trump is guilty of misconduct and errors in judgement. I don't know anyone that denies that. The house managers are trying to raise that to criminal activity and it simply is not criminal.
     
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    In your denying world. The reality is that they only have 2 articles of impeachment when there should be dozens. Trump already publicly confessed to the second article, obstruction. You can't use the phony "Executive Privilege" excuse to withhold evidence from Congress then claim his attorneys have that evidence and the House doesn't.
     
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    Puerile ad hom PF Rule Violation ignored for DEROGATORY reasons!
     
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    Good lord. You are acting like a fourth grader.
     
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    :roflol:

    Ironic PROJECTION duly noted FTR!

    :roflol:
     
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    Can't help but wonder what FTR means.
     
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    I agree with that. The only thing I found really questionable since Trump declassified the call transcript was Rudy Giuliani's involvement. I understand that Trump knows that he has enemies still working in the State and doesn't trust anyone there. Who could blame him for not trusting the DOJ and our intelligence agencies after what they put him through the first two years. Still, sending his personal attorney to go snooping around was inappropriate and deserves a censure from Congress. Trust them or not, he needs to go through normal channels if he wants to request a legal investigation.
     
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    You should just put that response in a file where you can copy and paste and save typing since you use it so often. It saves thinking on your part.
     
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    That is a curious position. You and I can hire a lawyer or an investigator. Why does the president not share the same prvivlege? My guess is that, as you say, he has little trust for people in his own administration but trusts Giuliani. Why not have someone you trust on your case?

    For the me the problem is that he asked Ukraine to investigate and, apparently, didn't even trust them to do it. If he wasn't going to trust the Ukrainians why would he have asked them publicly to investigate? The reason, of course, is that he didn't care about the investigation. But he sent Giuliani. It makes little sense to me and it got him impeached. Bad move.
     

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