Why are the Democrats opposed to the Bidens testifying?

A propensity to believe completely unfounded conspiracy theories and fairytales spun by self-serving corrupt officials and oligarchs - as you do - is not "rational" or "discerning".

Regardless of what you think. the company saw fit to offer him a job.

Landing a cushy job is not a crime and ALL relevant Ukrainian agencies have explicitly stated that he is not and never has been suspected of any wrong doing. Period.

 

Lol... you're too far gone.

 

And yet the investigated and then pronounced Trump guilty as charged and impeached him. It was just an auspicious event, they smiled for the cameras as they handed out golden signature pens on a silver platter.

You think that is how it works???

1) Your enemies conduct a completely one-sided public inquiry of you. They subpoena all your personal, financial and business records, personal advisors, policy advisors and legal advisors, and business associates.

1a) If you dared to assert your rights, and appeal to a higher court because you think the prosecution engaged in unlawful search and seizure, the prosecution counts this as another crime against you.​

2) You are not allowed any due process. not allowed to have counsel present at the inquiry, or provide your own evidence and witnesses, nor to cross examine or challenge the witnesses and evidence of your prosecutors have brought against you in a televised inquiry.

3) The prosecution parades out witness after witness as they savage your honor, character and destroy your reputation with their opinions and speculations.

4) Then in a grand televised proceeding they pronounce you guilty of crimes, in front of the entire nation.

5) The press spends the entire inquiry and the month after your impeachment tearing you to shreds, savaging your honor and reputation

6) And you think after your opponents have had months to cement the notion of your guilt into the mindset of the public....only after all of this, are you finally allowed due process, and the right to defend yourself, during your sentencing hearing???

 

These are Soviet Union style tactics and it is exactly what the current crop of Democrats in office are doing.

 

Because they all know he is guilty. They want Joe to run against Trump and win so they can finally get someone in the WH and appointments into the DOJ who will not only bury their illicit activities but go after their enemies and anyone who dares to expose what they have been doing. They know that President Trump winning his campaign and getting 4 more years in office will mean 4 more years of Obama and his Administration being opened and exposed before the public for all of the maleficence they perpetrated.

Joe Biden is guilty of using his position as VP to enrich his sons and his family. John Kerry is also mixed up in all of this. When you couple all of this with the FISA abuse, Obama spying on Trump before, during and after he won the nomination, Lynch and Clinton email scandal, guns being given to Mexican cartels and the malfeasance at the DOJ Yates and others were guilty of, it really adds up to one of the worst and most criminal Administrations we have ever seen. Not to mention rigging elections, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and her IT staff stealing information that somehow got swept under the carpet.

Democrats like Schiff, Schumer, Pelosi, Nadler are deflecting away and standing before the American people with lies so egregious that they hope they can sway the public away from real facts and to overturn an election they never expected to lose in 2016. They see 2020 shaping up as a huge won for Trump and this will be disaster for their party and for their objectives.

Trump is a progressive and Democrats worst nightmare. He is already a billionaire, can't be bought and is looking to strengthen America by giving the government back to the people so that the government works in the best interest of the people. Many Democrats like Schiff believe the government is a tool to serve their purposes and to serve their needs. Joe Biden thinks the same because he needs his position to fund his families needs and wants. Hillary Clinton used her position (all of them) to get funds in a pay for play scheme involving her "foundation". In other words, these corrupt politicians are using their positions to become millionaires and billionaires while accusing President Trump of doing what they are guilty of. Except, President Trump was already rich and already a billionaire before he even took office. So their claims always fall flat and only the most gullible and hardened "Never Trumpers" and socialist progressive Democrats fall for such lies.

The investigation into Joe Biden should be conducted in coordination with the criminal investigation into the Russian Hoax and into a criminal investigation into the FISA abuse. John Durham should be put in charge of a Special Council that is allowed to look into all aspects of Obama Administration and their extensive efforts to spy on Trump and his campaign and to undermine his Administration. It should also encompass this Whistleblower and how he worked directly with Democrats and Adam Schiff to undermine the country and attempt to bring down this President.

Let Durham look into all of it. Let Durham look into Joe Biden and his coke snorting son and his Ukraine and China deals. It's worth looking into, especially since Joe Biden claims he has nothing to hide. Well Joe, then lets let the FBI/DOJ and a Special Prosecutor raid your home, your son's home, and investigate to the full extent. If you really are innocent, you should be welcoming the intrusion. I am pretty sure I have heard that before.

 

If it had happened the way you imply, your post would be accurate, & any American would feel offended by the House actions. But the House committees REPEATEDLY offered Trump the opportunity to testify himself, or have his advisors testify, or have his attorneys testify in his place for him. In every instance, he refused. How can I or anyone, blame the House for that?

 

"Democrats" do not oppose Biden testimony....Biden does. And rightfully so as it has nothing to do with the Trial. It would be awesome to call the Bluff and say "sure I'll testify if Bolton gets to as well"

 

Sure, he can show up, but as i said the Schiff House refused to allow the right for his lawyers to cross examine witnesses or challenge evidence, refused to allow them to call witnesses. Hell, the dems even refused to allow Republicans to call or question witnesses. So spare me your skewed propaganda

 

We do not need Joe or Hunter Biden to testify at all.

Trump does not even need to show that the Bidens committed any crimes.

Trump's lawyers only need to show justification, illustrate why Trump thought what the Bidens were doing in Ukraine made him feel concerned.

To accomplish this, and show justification why Trump thought the Biden activities in Ukraine looked fishy, is to simply look at how all of Biden's family member suddenly fell into tens of millions of dollars in wind fall sweet deals.

Trump can start with this news article, to illustrate why the Biden get rich quick deals look so corrupt.:

How five members of Joe Biden’s family got rich through his connections

 

How would Hunter bring any exculpatory evidence in this process? How would Hillary Clinton do the same?

 

Hell the house allowed all the relevant witnesses that republicans called to testify. Even Mittens wants Bolton to testify.

 

Yes they did. Im sorry you dont like whistleblower protection statutes but all relevant witnesses testified. I can name at least 3 republican witnesses that testified and were allowed to be cross examined before republicans crashed the meeting they had open access to. Ghouliani didnt need to be involved. Lastly, der trumpengroper wouldnt be able to use that defense as the GAO already disagrees and Ghouliani was already caught red handed.

 

Nowhere in the statue does it say the name of the whistleblower has to be kept secret from, not just the US Congress, but the entire nation, so as to not even allow the name to be spoken during an impeachment hearing.

 

What planet do you live on???

House republicans released a list of eight witnesses they want to see called to testify as part of the impeachment inquiry (link to PDF). Included in the list is the anonymous CIA “whistleblower”, Hunter Biden, Alexandra Chalupa (DNC operative who met with Ukrainian officials in 2016), and Nellie Ohr who was doing the Fusion-GPS 2016 opposition research using Ukrainian contacts and sources.

 

Im sorry but you are crying because people relevant to a CT not even Lindsay Graham takes seriously didnt show? This isnt a game show for Ghouliani’s entertainment. Its been shown Rudy is responsible for harassing Yovanovich, causing a security risk for her and sabotaging our diplomatic efforts with Ukraine per Trump’s orders.

 

Timm Morrison, Kurt Volker, and David Hale ring any bells?

 

You folks are still peddling fiction on this. Trump wanted Hunter Biden investigated for corruption while working for a Ukrainian energy company. Nobody mentioned Creepy Joe until you folks said it was suddenly about Creepy Joe, which it wasn't. That fiction led to the clown show impeachment and will lead to Trump's acquittal. Funny how you proclaimed nobody was above the law, implying Trump, except you have no problem with Biden's being above the law. You folks really never do miss the opportunity to be hypocrites...

 

Biden isnt above the law. The prosecutor that was fired would have actually been a great boon to Biden if he was kept in office. Was ghouliani mentioning investigating the bidens in his writings just a figment of imagination? There was no basis for withholding aid even the GAO agrees.

 

If the Biden's aren't above the law, then an investigation into them shouldn't bother Democrats one bit. Trump doesn't need a basis to withhold aid to anyone for a certain amount of time. He can and should do so regularly to ensure that the system is working as intended. Democrats made a cesspit out of a mole hill on this and will pay for it dearly in Nov. They will lose the House, a few Senate seats and embarrass themselves in the presidential race...

 

In the Clinton impeachment, Republicans did precisely what you claim Democrats did in the House against Trump. The difference is, Clinton chose to respond to the House by testifying in person. Trump never did. There is no equivalency here. If you want to fix the problem, make sure BOTH SIDES ADHERE TO THE SOLUTION.

 

They have information that could speak to Trumps motive.

WHY Trump wanted to investigate Biden matters. If the Bidens are actually corrupted, it strengthens Trumps claim he was investigating because they are corrupt.

 

Biden has already been investigated by several agencies who found nothing to support charges. Trump is using Biden as a diversion to reduce public attention from his own misdeeds. Trump cares little to nothing about corruption, & constantly uses it to his own benefit.

 

So have Biden testify to show there’s nothing there and Trump is using him as a diversion.

 

I am perfectly fine with Joe being investigated, arrested and imprisoned if he is convicted. Unlike you with trump, I have no loyalty to party or politician.

People like yourself are what the founding fathers warned about.

 

JUST NOW BREAKING:

Been watching The Ingraham Angle, friday evening. Documents and testimony, particularly involving Andrii Telizhenko- Former Ukraine diplomat, revealing that the US was seriously investigating Biden/Barisma relationship before Trump was elected. Moreover, that people from the DNC were pressing him to help gather information that could be used against Trump. Reports say a major meeting took place I believe at the White House- where a number of key people discussed the Biden issue in detail. That was Obama's white house, taking place prior to the election.

The Obama administration and the state department were already investigating the very situation that they accuse Trump of requesting an investigation for, even before Trump took office. That investigation was extensive- but kept deeply undercover. .

From the sound of the reports, there is even more to the story than the parts mentioned here- much more. It explains a lot about the dem tactics we are seeing.
It also shows how the dems are walking a narrow line on the edge of exposure, trying to hold their story together without letting the real truth surface. However- the thin shell between them IS cracking.

Folks, the Fat Lady is not on the stage yet,
but she in now in the building and heading our way.