How the climate has changed since your childhood

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  1. Quasar44

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    Trumps accomplishments seem to contradict your Hate
     
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    How about some open-minded intellectual dialogue?
     
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    Has the climate changed ??
    I don’t see that much more warming but I see maybe more erratic weather

    I left the mid-west and NW to the great great weather of the SW
    I can’t take cold weather anymore
     
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    I spent 20 years in Michigan for gods sake and 10 yrs in Oregon !!

    I paid my dues

    Michigan was like a 20 yr prison term lol
     
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    You got reality rubbed into your face driven by basic common sense ..And that is rationality and reason and the fact of the matter .

    That it is ignored and rainbows and unicorns is used is what the alarmists are indulging in. And even the intelligent people left of center know this .

    Fossil fuels cannot be replaced without a new source of affordable energy in a world with ever growing demands for energy . A fact that the left just ignores . The only solution is that new source of energy. This is the fact that destroys the dreamers on the left Yet they continue to deny basic facts.
     
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    The world is bigger than Midwest or the south west of the USA
     
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    Fossil fuels ARE being replaced by cheaper less polluting alternatives

    The American right have yet to see it
     
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    The world is bigger than America
     
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    Hmmm yes because golfing every weekend, pushing the USA into record debt and lying through your teeth at every opportunity are GREAT accomplishments
     
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    Try the best US economy in HISTORY and record lowest unemployment
    Destroying of ISIS
    New trade deals
    The bringing back of millions of jobs in Cars and Steel
    Standing up to Iran and China.

    Just a few of his greatness.
     
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    The left never considers actions, just words. Probably why they screw up so badly like in Australia with the fires.
     
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    Biggest US debt in history
    Unemployment at the expense of fewer full time jobs
    Abandonment of allies who destroyed ISIS
    The “new” trade deals are much like the old ones and are NOT a global win
    “Millions of jobs” wow! Do you want to believe in green fairies too?
    China just wiped its feet all over Trump because it has no intention of honouring the promise of patent protection - why should it? It has made and broken that promise before. The ONLY reason Trump caved with China was he could no longer keep bailing out the farmers
     
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    What allies unless you mean the Kurds ( then I fully agree on that )

    He has zero help or support against China and is trying to do as much as he can alone

    You said nothing when Obama added on 10 T
    I agree it’s insanity
     
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    You do know that renewable energy now produces more power in the US than coal?

    For those who wish to live in the past and continue burning coal, simply scrub 99.5% of the harmful emissions.

    For those who focus on capitalism and profits, renewable energies are the best investments.

    Surely you've been following the role of AI in solar heat generation?

    Lastly, the reason renewable energy doesn't move faster is resistance from people like you...wouldn't it be great if more people got on board to solve these types of problems instead of being naysayers and roadblocks...
     
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    YES ...renewable is good and will only get better. The real future will be Fusion reactors. They are building test models in France in the next several years
     
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    Tee funny thing is, I bring things like this up all the time and it is completely ignored.

    Challenge them about the Medieval Warm Period, or the Little Ice Age, and it is likely that they will either ignore it, shut down, or immediately start to scream you are a climate denier.

    And I am old enough to remember the screams of many of the same crowd about the "Future Ice Age" in the 1970s. I am a skeptic, and the funny thing is that I see them doing the same basic mistake over and over. They do not make a hypothesis and try to validate it with evidence. They take data, and then build a claim around it that can not be proven or disproven.

    And challenge this hypothesis and you are "Anti-Science".

    Of course, many of the same people talk about 57 different genders, and talk about how that is a fact also. So guess how seriously I tend to take them anymore.
     
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    Not according the the US Energy Information Agency.

    Billion kWh Percent of power produced
    Coal 1,146 27.5%

    Renewables (total) 703 16.9%

    Sorry, Coal still outnumbers all renewable energy combined, by almost 2:1.

    Oh, and for all those that keep screaming for "new renewable energy", the top source of renewable energy is still hydroelectric.

    https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
     
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    Suffering is the answer until then. If the governments force people to suffer a lot, and lead by example so the people don't rise up and kill them, go without heat in winter, go without AC in summer, walk or bicycle everywhere and wear a big rucksack to get groceries, limit electricity to 150 kw per month per household, then the world don't have to end in ten years.

    Suffering and sacrifice is the only answer that works now, while there's still a little time left -- because they say climate change is something that is serious!
     
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    Fusion reactors do not exist today. Along with your sentiment renewable energy production 'will only get better'...
     
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    How the climate has changed since your childhood

    I has changed a lot. Most of my childhood was spent on a caribbean island with warm breezes and palm trees. I now live in fly over country, USA where we have snow on the ground at the moment. Huge change for me.
     
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    No appreciable change. Still plant in spring, still harvest as soon as we can. Still days of full sun, full rain, flooding, hurricanes, tornadoes, partly cloudy, fog, high heat, icy cold. Shrimpers say sea level is the same as always. No climate problems at all -- always going to have to deal with weather.

    The weather folks are much more emotional on TV now, that's the only change there is.
     
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    When I was a kid climate changed four times a year and we called them season. Now climate changes every day, unless its summer then its global warming and crazy cultists tell us the sky is falling. I'm starting to think this 'global warming' nonsense is actually a good thing, all that heat rising must be keeping the sky from falling, because these climate nutjobs have predicted our doom for decades and failed, miserably...
     
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