What Will the Next Democratic Impeachment Effort Will Look Like?

For the purposes of this thread I'm assuming the following:

1) President Trump is not removed from office as a result of the current Senate trial (almost certain).
2) President Trump will be reelected this November (likely but not certain).
3) The Democrats will keep control of the House in this falls elections (likely but not certain).

So that leaves President Trump in office another four years. Does anyone really doubt that the House Democrats will take another shot at impeaching him and removing him from office? If so how do you think they'll do it differently the second time around?

Though I can see where failing this time might make them gunshy for a do over, I think the hatred for Trump will tempt them to at least try to damage his historical reputation by making him the "twice impeached former president".

 

He has too many American flags behind him while on stage.

 

What does that mean?

 

Trump has big beautiful hair.

We can't have that.

 

This isn't new nor is it limited to Democrats. We now live by the politics of investigation. People want things investigated if it supports their personal beliefs. Fox news and MSNBC are always promoting investigations, but never of the people they support. Bill and Hillary were investigated, Bush was investigated,Obama was investigated, all by their political opposition. Lets not forget "Whitewater". Facts and truth are no longer relevant only the power to investigate.
Both sides need to place facts/truth above party power/support.

 

If they keep the house, it will be because there is enough support to bog the govt down in endless impeachment. Which is better than a Dem house legislating other stuff.

 

Patriotism doesn't sit well with the democrats.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/flags-democratic-debate/
https://www.lifezette.com/2019/09/i...on-stage-at-the-democratic-debate-in-houston/
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21138728/ns/politics-decision_08/t/obama-stops-wearing-american-flag-pin

 

If Trump is re-elected and the Republicans retain the Senate and regain the House it might be a good time to look for a constitutional remedy. I think that most of America would agree. I think that is abundantly clear that the Democrats are perverting the impeachment process for political purposes, this must forbidden. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach and remove The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States upon a determination that such officers have engaged in treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. There must be an addendum to this that includes language that implicitly defines what is actionable and what is not. The Democrats have concocted something that absolutely did not rise to the level high crimes and misdemeanors but insisted that it did because they said so. The forefathers could not have foreseen this sort of abuse of congressional power but here it is in 2020 because there's nothing in the Constitution that prohibits it. While we're at it why not a constitutional correction for future congresses that overstep their power.

 

It will continue to happen throughout his entire 2nd term and its a blessing in disguise. The fake russia investigation made democrats weaker, so is this fake ukraine hoax, and the more they throw at him, the more it will back fire. Sit back, get some popcorn, and enjoy the downfall of the democrats.

 

I have no idea, but I expect that they're brainstorming ideas.

 

Had Bill Clinton been a Republican he would have been convicted. Had Donald Trump been a Democrat he would have never even been charged.

 

Worse yet, he's bringing back prosperity and making it cool to be blue collar again -- when it was thought that those things had been soundly defeated already.

 

What Will the Next Democratic Impeachment Effort Will Look Like?

 

So your opinion agrees with the thesis that these investigations are political?

 

Of course they are political. The difference is the Republicans will not infrequently turn on a sufficiently egregious Republican, but Democrats will defend even the worst Democrat actors come hell or high water.

 

It ain't over 'till it's over. The Bolton "leak" raised a lot of hackles with a public denied access to witnesses. Those who predict a Trump reelection have badly misread public sentiment, changing demographics, and polling data. What this has done to Republican mindset is unknown.

Regardless of the outcome of the impeachment trial the GOP will suffer in 2020. Over half of Americans want Trump gone.

Investigation of Trump will continue because there is a rich storehouse of corruption surrounding Trump. Meanwhile, Democrats have readjusted their focus on the working class, wages, health care, immigration, and education. Trump won't be targeted. He is doing a splendid job of destroying himself.
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Kinda smells like the "Kavanaugh leak" and will go just as far.

 

If the Democrats keep the House, which I think is unlikely but who knows, they will not be gun shy in the least. They hate Trump, will always hate Trump, and firmly believe that he is not a legitimate president -- a little reminiscent of their attitude toward Bush43. They won't do a do over in the context of repeating the same charges, but they will impeach on other charges. They might revert back to the Mueller report; or go back to a president that didn't always listen to his intelligence or State Dept; or maybe resurrect Stormy Daniels and Cohen; or charge him with putting ketchup on steaks or being overweight; or attempting to destroy the freedom of the press (or the unfreedom of the press as it were); or go back to emoluments; or obstruction of congress -- even though there is no such thing -- for fighting their subpoenas for his tax and financial records; or whatever they might find with their incessant garbage diving.

 

There is no doubt about it. Because Trump will be committing impeachable acts at triple the speed now that he knows he's above the law (in your scenario).

Yes. I think time will not be as much an issue in bringing the impeachment charges given that he has already been allowed to cheat. But this would depend on what route he takes to overturn the 22nd Amendment. You didn't specify, but I'm assuming that your scenario includes Republicans keeping control of the Senate (not certain but likely). So most likely he will try a constitutional challenge so he can threaten with packing SCOTUS if he doesn't get his way. If he manages to do that (and I don't see why he wouldn't) he can cheat himself into re-election for life.... Maybe not "technically", but for all practical purposes it would be a dictatorship.

"Historical reputation"? He has no historical reputation to damage. He will always be remembered as the most corrupt President in History. The only way to "damage" this reputation would be to make it better and stop being corrupt. We all know that's not going to happen.

 

I have no doubt that the left's efforts to destroy Trump's presidency will continue, nor do I think we can rule out anything.
I don't think that the democrats have a chance to hold the house again, however. They have embarrassed themselves over and over- and have offended many democratic voters in the process. While a lot of them don't want to see Trump elected again, they will also see that they conduct of the dems today clearly indicates a lot of them are not fit to hold office or power- and they will vote for alternatives by default. Not necessarily for republicans, but against democrats.

Historically, Trump is making a notable place for himself, and a very positive one. He has stayed the course in spite of a continuous barrage of hate, spite, slander and personal attacks- and that is a sign of great leadership. The trash rolls off his back like water off a duck, and every time it fails to have effect, the dems frustration surges and they look for something stronger. At this point, they are running out of things to use, even impeachment was a desperate hail-mary kind of thing.

A second attempt at impeachment would not surprise me- but Trump gains experience in this game everyday, and the dems learn nothing from their own failures. It's unlikely they have any chance of success.

 

The only place anyone gives a tinker's damn is DC and some of the younger zanier Democrat precincts. Every one else things holding up aid over corruption is just fine.

 

Firing any diplomat at will is fine, too.

 

the next Democrat attempt will be a circular firing squad

 

Trump will fart and it will smell like fresh daisies, and demorats will lose their minds because it won't smell bad and that will be the next impeachment.

 

I'd say they are practiced up, will improve, and will not try to sell such a crazy bill of goods next time. And if Pelosi is still ruling them she will be more careful about what she sends up and when she hits the send button.