Ted Cruz reacts to latest - Dismissal or Acquittal - what's best for DJT & the GOP going forward...?

I must confess that I'm conflicted here; I would love to see Trump bring in the witnesses that bolster his case. I would love for Trump's team to be able to cross examine witnesses (including Schiff / whistle blower, The IG, Bidens etc.) & For quite nearly the 1st time have a modicum of due process.

On the flip side, it would be great to get this charade over with, with 51 votes for 'no' on witnesses - a vote for dismissal would likely follow next wk. Wouldn't, however, an actual motion to reach final judgement (vote to acquit Trump) be best in the long run?


(specifically 3:45' into the clip)

 

Whether it ends next week or not, acquittal will be the result. That said, the left will not stop until he leaves office; which I believe will be in 5 years.

 

What happens when they begin to ask questions next week and the first question is to Adam Schiff, "Mr. Schiff, did you coordinate with the whistle blower on these accusations"? Boom!

 

Right?

I am glad to be a part of your second post.

 

Look’s like the Bolton revelation just blew Trump’s defense team’s argument. Hmmm...people in Trump’s universe lying to the public and in front of the CJ?

Who’da thunk.

 

What revelation?

 

And what "revelation" of John Bolton are you talking about - per se...? I / we would all be assuming that this would 'justifiably' fall under the category of Executive Privilege - opened up ONLY by the courts. You do recognize, I hope, the imperativeness of Executive privilege... Something that All POTUS's have exerted (including Obummer...) lol,

 

My even money bet is there's no way in h*ll that trump will allow his minions to call any witnesses. Why do you think trump refused to allow the dems to question them?

 

Because the house dumbycrats were fishing for perjury traps, not trying to find the truth.

 

People really believed for a second this was actually a serious matter?

nadler, schiff, pelosi have orchestrated the biggest scam in political history. There was never even a remote possibility of Trump being removed from office for ‘maybe’ asking another country to look into possible corruption involving bidens. This was all about:

1. Putting the senate on trial, make republican senators appear as if they were involved in a cover up and see if some seats could be flipped.
2. Use the senate trial as a platform to make a case to the american voter that trump is unfit to be president and doesn’t deserve a second term.


This was the strategy all along and it’s dead obvious. The house has completely abused it’s awesome impeachment powers for political gain. I believe it will backfire, the timing is way off. It’s only january and the more time passes, the more and more people will realize this was a scam from the onset. If they had waited until just before election, it may have casted doubts and clouded people’s judgement but january? This is a huge miscalculation, it will backfire badly.

 

No. It would not fall under executive privilege. I’m speaking about the WH leak of Bolton’s transcript. A first hand confirmation of the quid pro quo or Trump telling Bolton the reason for the hold was to pressure Ukraine for dirt on the Dems. Or the Dem’s have the story right.

Just so you know Roberts can rule on privilege claims and R’s would need to vote to over rule him in front of the nation. Also, to claim executive privilege you’ve got to turn over the goods so a judgement can be made.
That’s the precise reason that it hasn’t been claimed in this case. He’d need to turn over evidence of his own wrong doing.

The coverup is unraveling. It’s going to be hard to offer a defense and the vote against witnesses more so. We —the country—-need to hear administration witnesses under oath.

It shouldn’t be a shock that the President has been loose with truth or his minions have been covering for him. The former, lying to you, is his specialty and unfortunately he’s good at it. The latter, we’re going to find out just how far down the rabbit hole his minions are willing to go.

 

This is a good example of how conservative thinking is off. The idea of cross examining Shiff is Banana Republic thinking. A mob mentality, take out those who expose the criminality.

 

The one that doesn't prove any intent for self interest.

Just more 'bombshell!!!'.

 

Don't worry, we still have another nine months for more Trumpian corruption to come to light. Once his Senate Republican enablers give him a pass, once again, he is just going to up the corruption. But then Republicans never did like fair elections, or trials for that matter. But then what do you expect from an ideology that doesn't do so well in the light?

 

End it. Nothing will come of cross-examining witnesses. Remember the Kavanaugh circus: a buncha liars on the stand and no consequences for it. People just accept the fraud as standard practice now.

 

Too late! With all of the hoaxes the other side has lost all credibility. At this point, trump could actually do something bad and most people would be like "yeah yeah whatever, another hoax, yawn"
I'm sorry to say your side overplayed their hand and has lost all credibility. Low impeachment trial viewer ratings are proof of this. I am loving how one brave man, Donald J. Trump, has single handedly destroyed the evil forces of the democratic party forever. AMAZING!

 

Indeed; and Schiff would either have to openly lie or take the 5th. But the problem is that the GOP never EVER plays the game that way in such a manner that the outcome will wreck the Dem Party's leadership. It's as if there is such a thing as a 'political spine' and then there is whatever a GOPer politician uses as a substitute for that instead of the real thing.

 

Only in the strange world if the Democratic party does investigating corruption equal corruption. That's why no one's buying your three ring circus. Granted it doesn't help the Adam Schiff is about as telegenic as a mud fence and looks more like the late Peter Lorre famous for playing obsequious toadies to mad villains than he does anyone on LA law.

 

I am in complete agreement with your assessment; including the fact that the political Left's leadership almost always sucks when it comes down to both subtlety and timing. They specialize in making their moves too obvious and too soon. Perhaps that had got something to do with collective Party arrogance and pretty much outright controlling the machinery of political propaganda -- the bulk of the Mainstream Media.

 

Apparently they have to tell you that, so that you don't lose faith in the Republîcan Party. But the numbers haven't been looking so good for the Trumpster. If he was so assured of winning, why did he have to cheat. Why did he have to ask other countries to help him concoct a false narrative to help him deceive the voters once again?

 

You might be putting too much stock in a New York Times "report".

 

Truth hurts, doesn't it. So much that one has to lash out at the truth tellers.

 

I already lost faith in the Republican party when they had the house and didn't do shyt with it, that is NOT the talking point here, please don't try to derail (as most on your side do when there is ZERO evidence to back up fake claims) . As president it is his right to stand against corruption. Per the transcript

"There's a lot 6f.talk about Biden's son,. that Eiden stopped theprosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that sowhatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so ifyou ·can look into it ..."

There is NOTHING illegal in the above statement. Also, how will this help him in 2020? You think people that like Biden are gonna be like "uh oh, he tried to hook his son up, better not vote for him and vote Trump instead"

yeah, i'm pretty sure that isn't how it works. Again, you guys got nothing. Time to get a new message besides "GET TRUMP".. Clearly this line of thought has not lead to much productivity for democrats.

 

Thanks for the laughs!

 

If only you had any idea what the truth was. Investigating corruption isn't corrupt, it's investigating corruption. Granted it will make all the roaches in the DC swamp uncomfortable and may wind up eventually with a few of the more egregious violators in jail but most of the rest of America is thinking it's about damn time.